Trying a couple of aeschynomene/Alyce clover plots.

[omicron1792]

That looks like it. Yes it gets tall.

I mowed strips through it and the deer tore it up.

 

[BrushyPines]

Lotta great stuff comes outta MSU about trees, habitat....and bees!!!

.......just not football

Hotty Toddy

bill

............. but what about basketball and baseball?????? Hail State!!!!

In all seriousness, idk how I missed this thread. Trying alyce clover and joint vetch for the first time this year. Hoping they'll do good in my sandy soil. After reading yall's posts of joint vetch liking wetter soils, I have my doubts of it thriving through the drought months we have.

 

[Baker]

Is the deer vetch supposta get this tall? Maybe it needs mowed. I'm not even sure if it's the right stuff but its about 6 foot tall. There are some deer eating it but they're notView attachment 66683 not mowing it down.

Thats coffee weed aka sesbania not vetch. Hate to disappoint but worthless and invasive

 

[omicron1792]

............. but what about basketball and baseball?????? Hail State!!!!

In all seriousness, idk how I missed this thread. Trying alyce clover and joint vetch for the first time this year. Hoping they'll do good in my sandy soil. After reading yall's posts of joint vetch liking wetter soils, I have my doubts of it thriving through the drought months we have.

That’s why you do it in mix it with Alyce clover. It will do well in drier soils.

 

[Smelly buck]

Thats coffee weed aka sesbania not vetch. Hate to disappoint but worthless and invasive

That sucks, I've bought it from two different sources online. I'm not possitive but I think I remember Hancock supply or something like that. The deer never seemed too interesed in it. I do appreciate the info. Is there a supplier you can recommend.

 

[omicron1792]

Planted this years crop with my drill on the 13th.

2 weeks before I sprayed with per acre

2 quarts gly
4oz imazathepyr
1 pint pendimethalin.

I planted per acre

20 soybeans
5 cowpeas (had a 50lb bag left over)
3 milo
3 sunflowers
3 sun hemp
5 Alyce clover
5 Aeschynomene

Only difference this year compared to last 2 is adding the soybeans. We will see if it does anything. I planted 7 acres total.

 

[omicron1792]

Pics from my farm today. My plots had either gotten so tall and thick, or a little weedy so I mowed them to clean them up. The Alyce clover and Aeschynomene is thick underneath so should provide alot of food until first frost in late October.

Talk stuff is either sorghum Sudan (all volunteer) or teosinte.

 

[Brian662]

First frost in late October? When did you move to Southern MN?

 

[omicron1792]

First frost in late October? When did you move to Southern MN?

Ha. Just looked it up. November 3rd. Thing is after first frost might have a week of 75 degree temps.

 

[BrushyPines]

Alyce Clover has impressed me. It took some time to put on growth, but in the last month or so it has shot up. Deer Vetch has not grown as good and I'm sure it is because of my sandy soil and the deep south heat.

 

[omicron1792]

Aeschynomene loves the heat. But also likes bottom land soil.

Really need to plant about 10lbs/acre of the deer vetch and 5/acre of the Alyce.

They like the Alyce but love the Aeschynomene.

 

[Tangler]

I think you will struggle with it that far north. You def won’t get it to reseed, but you have to get it in the ground as soon as threat of frost is past.

Yes, I will plant in Alabama (my family’s land) but not on the land I am managing in NH. Just seems too far north in NH but am excited to try in AL!

 

[Bearswamper]

An update to my previous posts- Last season to my surprise a few vetch plants showed up after we disced a small patch and sewed in WR for the fall- couldn't miss it with those purple flowers and fern-like leaves. I monitored the plants and did not see any evidence of browsing- despite trail cam pics showing large number of deer every evening. We last tried Aeschynomene vetch in 2020, so some original seed must have germinated after laying dormant.

 

[Telemark]

An update to my previous posts- Last season to my surprise a few vetch plants showed up after we disced a small patch and sewed in WR for the fall- couldn't miss it with those purple flowers and fern-like leaves. I monitored the plants and did not see any evidence of browsing- despite trail cam pics showing large number of deer every evening. We last tried Aeschynomene vetch in 2020, so some original seed must have germinated after laying dormant.

Is it possible you saw naturalized hairy vetch?

I thought joint vetch had yellow flowers.

 

[omicron1792]

Is it possible you saw naturalized hairy vetch?

I thought joint vetch had yellow flowers.

Agreed. That sounds like hairy vetch. Not a major draw for deer, but great for soil.

@SD51555 hates that stuff!