Finally got back out this a.m before the wind gets too wid again. Had a decent 4x5, average mass, decent tine length, but narrow get within killing range but my shots were always obstructed by vegetation. Hunting public land so I cant get caried away clearing shooting lanes. All he had to do was duck under the barb wire fence and come up the trail like all his relation, he would have been broadside at 16 yards, but he decided he couldnt fit under the fence. He half heartedly tried twice. They cant jump the fence easily as it is at the top of a fairly steep bank. Turned and went back the way he came. One last try tomorrow morning before gun season starts.