omicron1792
5 year old buck +
For early work on a plot I would use as much of the cheapest rye you can.
The Throw n’ Mow Method
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5 year old buck +
SD,
The seed shatter issue, you still have a mower? One member on here tried the mow then cultipack method.
I have used outsidepride numerous times. For the amount I can use in a reasonable amount of time, they're pretty well priced. The seed coatings they used seemed to be lighter than some other places. Usual 35% vs 50% on some places. Atleast the stuff I have used.
I use oats, rye, and wheat because its local and cheap. Anything you guys add us to sweeten things. I notcied some vetch in your crop there SD, something like that. Something other than clovers n brassicas. I have alot of trees to plant this spring, so throwing in some hairy vetch at camp might be out of the picture. It has grown well in the past for me, but never produced sed because of fall planting. I really want a new spot at camp, but the fertility is on the low side.
SD, I like your use of the ATV. Keeping it budget friendly. Besides cost of equipment, some of us need to haul in and out our stuff each time.
The seed shatter issue, you still have a mower? One member on here tried the mow then cultipack method.
I have used outsidepride numerous times. For the amount I can use in a reasonable amount of time, they're pretty well priced. The seed coatings they used seemed to be lighter than some other places. Usual 35% vs 50% on some places. Atleast the stuff I have used.
I use oats, rye, and wheat because its local and cheap. Anything you guys add us to sweeten things. I notcied some vetch in your crop there SD, something like that. Something other than clovers n brassicas. I have alot of trees to plant this spring, so throwing in some hairy vetch at camp might be out of the picture. It has grown well in the past for me, but never produced sed because of fall planting. I really want a new spot at camp, but the fertility is on the low side.
SD, I like your use of the ATV. Keeping it budget friendly. Besides cost of equipment, some of us need to haul in and out our stuff each time.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Don’t get SD started on vetch! Earmuffs kids. Earmuffs.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
No plot mower, no. I'm ok with that. I'd rather pay $50/ac or whatever that cost is to re-establish those seeds than have to mow them. I'd spend the money and keep the good and durable residue blanket intact.
I've also used Outside Pride for a number of different things. They're really good for common flowers like black eyed susan and coneflowers. Hairy vetch is on it's own program at my place. Now that I've introduced it, it's just slowly spreading across those plots. The throw and roll may have slowed it down if I can keep those seeds in the pods until the following spring.
Thanks for the kudos on the budget minded work I do. A dollar saved is a dollar I can invest in suppressors, thermal optics, or early retirement.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
He caught me on a good day. No need to engage the caps lock and spell swear words with the special characters.
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5 year old buck +
Like that early retirement. My place is switching to 25 years service and 55, instead of 30 years for full retirement. Can retire right at 55 If I don't get a winter house down in florida or the carolinas. Just heard that yesterday!
Gonna drink that koolaid. The vetch how late can you seed it and make it produce seed. August is too late.
Gonna drink that koolaid. The vetch how late can you seed it and make it produce seed. August is too late.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Treat it like a biennial. Plant it the same time you put in rye or fall clover.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
?? on the hairy vetch. Do your deer eat it there? I know it's good for N soil-wise. Does it inhibit other food plot crops from flourishing where it's established? (if you want to overseed something)
SD51555
5 year old buck +
They do not eat it.
Pros: Biomass, resilience, abundant and durable flowers
Cons: Viny, will make your cereal grains lodge at the end of your life cycle. Resilience, produces seed all year, and seed regularly resists germination, so once you think you got it beat, more germinates.
Hairy Vetch - SARE
Hairy Vetch (Vicia villosa) Type: winter annual or summer annual legume Roles: N source, weed suppressor, topsoil conditioner, reduce erosion Mix with: small grains, field peas, bell beans, crimson clover, buckwheat See charts, p. 66 to 72, for ranking and management summary. Few legumes match...
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Trit
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Thanks for the info, SD. I think for our purposes, HV isn't for our camp.They do not eat it.
Pros: Biomass, resilience, abundant and durable flowers
Cons: Viny, will make your cereal grains lodge at the end of your life cycle. Resilience, produces seed all year, and seed regularly resists germination, so once you think you got it beat, more germinates.
Hairy Vetch - SARE
Hairy Vetch (Vicia villosa) Type: winter annual or summer annual legume Roles: N source, weed suppressor, topsoil conditioner, reduce erosion Mix with: small grains, field peas, bell beans, crimson clover, buckwheat See charts, p. 66 to 72, for ranking and management summary. Few legumes match...www.sare.org
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5 year old buck +
Mine got eaten the year I planted it. I did throw some leftover in the year after, but was seeded real thin to be sure. They say its good for sandy soil. Seemed to tolerate growing in a trail too. Limited light.
Not sure if it grows back after spraying it with gly or not.
Not sure if it grows back after spraying it with gly or not.
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5 year old buck +
Hows that medium clover? Coated? Only $27 to ship to my house, $157 shipped isn't too bad. See they got a place in rocky mount on the way to topsail NC where I go fshing.
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5 year old buck +
Usually, the seed count is really 50-70% seed and rest is coating. Got a 50lb bag of crimson last years with 50% coating.
Finding places with uncoated seed is tough enough.
I prefer natural colored seeds over these bright dots. Gives the voles and birds an easy target. You can get innoculant without the limestone dust or whatever they add to it. An ounce or two of liquid packet does a whole bag.
Finding places with uncoated seed is tough enough.
I prefer natural colored seeds over these bright dots. Gives the voles and birds an easy target. You can get innoculant without the limestone dust or whatever they add to it. An ounce or two of liquid packet does a whole bag.
