The Throw n’ Mow Method
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davidhelmly
5 year old buck +
I know at Welter if your total order of what they consider small grains is 50# or more, they cover half of the shipping.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Do some alternative pricing on the web. Check Outsidepride.com
They may also have 5lb bags and u might be able to mix your own.
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
I did some quick homework for ya. At Outside Pride:
$4/lb fixation balansa (in a 10 lb bag)
$3/lb red clover (in a 10 lb bag)
$4/lb Yellow sweet clover (in a 10lb bag)
$4/lb Alfalfa (in a 10lb bag)
$10/lb Chicory (in a 5lb bag)
So, you could make 45 lbs of this blend for $200 + shipping. I would spread that over 9 acres along with 1 bushel of your favorite winter cereal. If you pay $25/bu for winter cereal, you're looking at roughly $50/ac to put this in. Then your re-seed blend after the establishment year would be the same minus the chicory and alfalfa:
Fixation + Red + YSC + winter cereal = $40/ac to keep it going.
If you can get Welters to do it, I'd order from them. That seems like a great deal. Ten pounds of chicory anywhere is $100 alone.
$4/lb fixation balansa (in a 10 lb bag)
$3/lb red clover (in a 10 lb bag)
$4/lb Yellow sweet clover (in a 10lb bag)
$4/lb Alfalfa (in a 10lb bag)
$10/lb Chicory (in a 5lb bag)
So, you could make 45 lbs of this blend for $200 + shipping. I would spread that over 9 acres along with 1 bushel of your favorite winter cereal. If you pay $25/bu for winter cereal, you're looking at roughly $50/ac to put this in. Then your re-seed blend after the establishment year would be the same minus the chicory and alfalfa:
Fixation + Red + YSC + winter cereal = $40/ac to keep it going.
If you can get Welters to do it, I'd order from them. That seems like a great deal. Ten pounds of chicory anywhere is $100 alone.
Brian662
5 year old buck +
SD, I've seen you talk about different attractiveness levels of plots at different times of the year...how does this blend rate for attractiveness and at when is the major draw if it is a biennial or is it just a soil builder? It seems like in my area/deer density, in zone 4b, that mix would be dormant/unattractive by mid-late October depending on the tonnage available.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Hard to say. I've only seen YSC germinate once, and i could swear it got 12" tall in the establishment year. I went way back into my archives for the up close pics from the very first year. I had also throw collards into this plot, but the clovers in this circle are YSC in the planting year. This is 5 weeks since planting.
This is 7 weeks since planting:
They ate all of that clover before winter. My takeaway on that is, you can get some tonnage in the planting year with YSC, and I'd place it right up there with alfalfa in terms of attractiveness. After that clover is used up, you have to fall back on your cereals. The cereals will be good all the way to snowfall. After november 1st, all that is left anywhere around is cereals.
farmlegend
5 year old buck +
Yes, drought rage is a thing. The cereals I heavily broadcast in August were a total bust. Doubled down in late September. From what ultimately came up, my 300#/a looked more like 30#/acre.
2024 marked my 25th year of foodplotting, and I would say we had the worst fall growing weather I've seen. I got daikon radishes the size of cigarettes, and purple tops the size of macadamia nuts.
farmlegend
5 year old buck +
I likewise have thrown turnip seed down in my plots for decades now, and have yet to see evidence that deer ate any turnip bulbs. I few nibbles on the leaves is about it.
farmlegend
5 year old buck +
I planted an acre's worth of it in both 2023 and 2024. The 2023 planting was outstanding. so much fun to find so many different things growing in that plot. Deer were in there a lot, some to forage, others just to sniff around out of curiosity.
My 2024 planting was a total bust. Got pounded with rain for several weeks after planting, and the plants literally drowned. Irony of ironies, we got into August and went eight weeks without a drop.
