The Throw n’ Mow Method
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davidhelmly
5 year old buck +
I know at Welter if your total order of what they consider small grains is 50# or more, they cover half of the shipping.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Do some alternative pricing on the web. Check Outsidepride.com
They may also have 5lb bags and u might be able to mix your own.
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
I did some quick homework for ya. At Outside Pride:
$4/lb fixation balansa (in a 10 lb bag)
$3/lb red clover (in a 10 lb bag)
$4/lb Yellow sweet clover (in a 10lb bag)
$4/lb Alfalfa (in a 10lb bag)
$10/lb Chicory (in a 5lb bag)
So, you could make 45 lbs of this blend for $200 + shipping. I would spread that over 9 acres along with 1 bushel of your favorite winter cereal. If you pay $25/bu for winter cereal, you're looking at roughly $50/ac to put this in. Then your re-seed blend after the establishment year would be the same minus the chicory and alfalfa:
Fixation + Red + YSC + winter cereal = $40/ac to keep it going.
If you can get Welters to do it, I'd order from them. That seems like a great deal. Ten pounds of chicory anywhere is $100 alone.
$4/lb fixation balansa (in a 10 lb bag)
$3/lb red clover (in a 10 lb bag)
$4/lb Yellow sweet clover (in a 10lb bag)
$4/lb Alfalfa (in a 10lb bag)
$10/lb Chicory (in a 5lb bag)
So, you could make 45 lbs of this blend for $200 + shipping. I would spread that over 9 acres along with 1 bushel of your favorite winter cereal. If you pay $25/bu for winter cereal, you're looking at roughly $50/ac to put this in. Then your re-seed blend after the establishment year would be the same minus the chicory and alfalfa:
Fixation + Red + YSC + winter cereal = $40/ac to keep it going.
If you can get Welters to do it, I'd order from them. That seems like a great deal. Ten pounds of chicory anywhere is $100 alone.
Brian662
5 year old buck +
SD, I've seen you talk about different attractiveness levels of plots at different times of the year...how does this blend rate for attractiveness and at when is the major draw if it is a biennial or is it just a soil builder? It seems like in my area/deer density, in zone 4b, that mix would be dormant/unattractive by mid-late October depending on the tonnage available.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Hard to say. I've only seen YSC germinate once, and i could swear it got 12" tall in the establishment year. I went way back into my archives for the up close pics from the very first year. I had also throw collards into this plot, but the clovers in this circle are YSC in the planting year. This is 5 weeks since planting.
This is 7 weeks since planting:
They ate all of that clover before winter. My takeaway on that is, you can get some tonnage in the planting year with YSC, and I'd place it right up there with alfalfa in terms of attractiveness. After that clover is used up, you have to fall back on your cereals. The cereals will be good all the way to snowfall. After november 1st, all that is left anywhere around is cereals.
farmlegend
5 year old buck +
Yes, drought rage is a thing. The cereals I heavily broadcast in August were a total bust. Doubled down in late September. From what ultimately came up, my 300#/a looked more like 30#/acre.
2024 marked my 25th year of foodplotting, and I would say we had the worst fall growing weather I've seen. I got daikon radishes the size of cigarettes, and purple tops the size of macadamia nuts.
farmlegend
5 year old buck +
I likewise have thrown turnip seed down in my plots for decades now, and have yet to see evidence that deer ate any turnip bulbs. I few nibbles on the leaves is about it.
farmlegend
5 year old buck +
I planted an acre's worth of it in both 2023 and 2024. The 2023 planting was outstanding. so much fun to find so many different things growing in that plot. Deer were in there a lot, some to forage, others just to sniff around out of curiosity.
My 2024 planting was a total bust. Got pounded with rain for several weeks after planting, and the plants literally drowned. Irony of ironies, we got into August and went eight weeks without a drop.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Is that purple flower alfalfa?? Seems we have yellow around here if it's alfalfa.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
I'm going to make a request for a seed mix for a 3/4 acre food plot that will last, & be able to have something overseeded into it. Please give lbs. of each seed variety for that 3/4 acre. I'm open for spring-seeded mix AND a fall-seeded mix, as they would likely vary. Thank-you gents in advance!
SD51555
5 year old buck +
M is right. Just do 2 lbs of each and call it good.
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Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
How much rye for 3/4 acre?? I've seen so many thoughts on how much rye to add to seed mixes for a multi-crop food plot ......
I'd like to have a plot where each seed component doesn't crowd / outcompete others in the mix, so all varieties can do well.
Would the above seed mix (matinc's) be spring or fall-planted??
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
In my opinion (take with a grain of salt) it's difficult to the point of not worth the effort to try to match mixes so all varieties do well. Reason being that one plant might sprout quickly and do great, then another might come on strong later in the season, then another might excel during hot/dry periods while another goes dormant, then the one that excelled in the dry spell might get choked out after a couple of rains hit. Point being that a mix should be insurance against all situations in that SOMETHING is doing well when everything else is weak. Once the weather conditions all average out, something will dominate.
