Foggy47
5 year old buck +
That sounds more like an effort to feed deer and not very practical for seeding. Never heard of anyone putting down 12 Bu / acre. Yikes.
The Throw n’ Mow Method
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
I've failed with 3 bushel rates, to the point I got nothing. My best guess is I was dealing with drought rage and just did something crazy to act out against the weather. This drought is really starting to piss me off.
davidhelmly
5 year old buck +
Yes it definitely has!
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
Well.....I can just say this......If two Bu/Acre does not germinate due to a drought......then 12 Bu/Acre wont germinate any better.....and I don't care how you plant it. You can take that to the bank. lol
....and if you continue to do things like this.....you won't ever get that drill. lolol.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
I've already beaten the drill. My next trick will be throw and roll zucchini.
T-Max
5 year old buck +
I really really want to live inside your brain for like a day. Would be enlightening.
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matinc
5 year old buck +
Foggy unfortunately I don't want to spend endless hours preparing a food plot any longer. Nor do I want to buy a tractor and a no till drill. The faster I can plant something and be done for the year the better. If I can throw and crimp to complete a one acre plot in 1.5 hours per year that's my goal. 2.5 hours if I mow it later Max since you put your 2 cents in let's hear your master food plot strategy. SD I'm trying to get OM like you and can't wait for updates on your new OM adventures
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
I think not throwing and mowing saved my plot this year. Buying that tow behind disc and getting some of the seed buried.
My clover at home is real thick, Im pretty sure there no dutch white in there anymore. Mostly ladino and medium red. I got to stun that clover with gly or I dont get a decent stand of rye. Fresh seed fighting that heavier clay vs establish deep roots in that clay.
Also, any of you have to ocassionally address weed issues. Red aramath is a constant battle. I just made the battle worse last year. Planting spruces and apples at the edge of the plot. Probably can use 2,4D for another year or two. Im OK loosing the apple tree or two, but I have zero seclusion on my home plot. I have and will continue to cover up the trees from overspray and then water the leaves lightly after spraying. Concerned about the roots getting the 2,4D.
Speaking of seclusion, Anybody grow a good concealment screen without tillage? My house/roadside part of the plot will be tilled this year, Need to level the soil and stir in a woodchip layer thats been rotting in the plot expansion since febuary. Been a toss up this year between corn, sorghum, or ethiopian cabbage. No-till corn is out of equation with my soil. Need seclusion for another 5 years. Traffic next door should die down alot by then. LEaning a bit towards corn, just because I never grew it in a food plot before.
My clover at home is real thick, Im pretty sure there no dutch white in there anymore. Mostly ladino and medium red. I got to stun that clover with gly or I dont get a decent stand of rye. Fresh seed fighting that heavier clay vs establish deep roots in that clay.
Also, any of you have to ocassionally address weed issues. Red aramath is a constant battle. I just made the battle worse last year. Planting spruces and apples at the edge of the plot. Probably can use 2,4D for another year or two. Im OK loosing the apple tree or two, but I have zero seclusion on my home plot. I have and will continue to cover up the trees from overspray and then water the leaves lightly after spraying. Concerned about the roots getting the 2,4D.
Speaking of seclusion, Anybody grow a good concealment screen without tillage? My house/roadside part of the plot will be tilled this year, Need to level the soil and stir in a woodchip layer thats been rotting in the plot expansion since febuary. Been a toss up this year between corn, sorghum, or ethiopian cabbage. No-till corn is out of equation with my soil. Need seclusion for another 5 years. Traffic next door should die down alot by then. LEaning a bit towards corn, just because I never grew it in a food plot before.
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
I have spent those "endless hours" you speak of, and if you want to compare note.....Im your guy. Much like you, I have worked my ass off to develop what I have. I know of many that would not spend the time and work I have put into this land. However, hours alone do not equal the response of Mother Nature.
Not sure of your age Mantic.....I'm soon 78. I cannot, or will not, do the kind of work it took me to establish my land. I am not about to apologize to you, or anyone else, for whatever degree of wealth I have obtained, or for owning my tractor and drill. I worked hard, earned it.....and I will use it as I see fit. If you got a problem with that....then get in line to be a democrat. (grin)
If you can better my efforts without my equipment......more power to you. But, I will not accept your ideology that I should not do what I can with my money and my land. Go Fish.
A drill and tractor is not the end all to end all. Lots of ways to skin a cat....and I respect that. However, at this point in my life.....I gotta find some easier ways to do things than I did in the past. 'Merica. I'm good with it. MAGA!
SD51555
5 year old buck +
That's where my 'ah ha' moment hit me square in the forehead this summer. Those clovers that don't quit will not let you help them restock the carbon bank with some rye. This is why knowing red, yellow sweet, and balansa clover all peter out on their own in their second year summer is such a big deal. They take themselves out and leave the chicory, alfalfa, and maybe a few thistles to be the green bridge into the next crop. It's a fallow without the fallow problems (weeds, P deficiency, crusting, baking, no germ etc). You get the benefits of a nearly clean slate, and all of the benefits of the heavy residue blanket.
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Stubborn1VT
A good 3 year old buck
For screen, I would plant ANYTHING but corn. Sorghum is easy to grow. If you're looking at a 5 year plan, I would consider a more permanent planting.
Most years I get free corn seed from a farm I used to work at. I would use it to plant a screen to break up my plot. In the beginning it worked ok. Since then, the crows, deer, coons, bear, drought, flooding and slugs have all attacked my corn screen. Unless I build a serious electric fence, I will never plant a patch of corn again. Sorghum is cheap, easy to grow, and produces OM and grain.
I had the pleasure of growing 2 good crops of corn in 10 years, which was a good experience. I had 8 years or more of fighting to grow corn. I finally realized that the time, fertilizer, and frustration were wasted, when all I really wanted was a screen that made the deer feel more secure. On top of that, a deer isn't 6 feet tall, so my screen could be much shorter. I'm planting Milo. In your instance, you could plant Sorghum Sudan for a screen or a mix of sorghum Sudan and Milo.
I also have heavy clay and have started adding rotted wood chips to my plot to fill in low spots and add OM. Wood chips are what I have on hand.
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
Easy peasy with rain and thatch. I've had plenty of success with large seeds (pumpkin lokely closest to your zucchini). I must have missed it somewhere and didn't know that the deer were eating zucchini. That could be a game changer for me as it practically takes over gardens here. I wonder how late into the fall that could be managed?
What they are willing to eat in Cass County MN may be very different than what they will eat in KS. Here in My area of SD the zucchini and pumpkins seem safe. They get into the unfenced garden and eat peas and sometimes newly sprouted sweet corn but other than that we haven’t had many problems.
Pumpkins left in the pasture don’t get much attention.
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Catscratch
5 year old buck +
My deer will not eat turnips! Tried many times. But they seem popular with plotters all over the country. They wouldn't eat pumpkins, until they did. Then they fought over them.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
That was not on this forum. That was on one of the others. I had a massive 28” zucchini that was near 6” thick. Busted it in half and threw it in front of my camera. They ate the whole thing.
I’m not sure how much nutrition is in zucchini, so I’m gonna tread lightly before I cover the property in it. It looks like mostly water and fiber.
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Catscratch
5 year old buck +
Tromboncino: Homegrown Animal Feed - Homesteaders of America
Grow your own animal feed on the homestead! Learn the benefits and how to grow tromboncino squash as a dual-purpose crop for man or beast.
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Possible candidate?
It says squash bugs don't bother it, which is the reason i backed off the pumpkins.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Seems spendy @ 15 cents/seed most I found. I like this world better, where we're at less than a penny per seed. It's much easier to get cavalier with establishment when it's cheap.Tromboncino: Homegrown Animal Feed - Homesteaders of America
Grow your own animal feed on the homestead! Learn the benefits and how to grow tromboncino squash as a dual-purpose crop for man or beast.
Possible candidate?
It says squash bugs don't bother it, which is the reason i backed off the pumpkins.
True Leaf Market | True Leaf Market Seed Company
Over half a million customers have chosen True Leaf Market seed company for non-GMO, heirloom & organic garden seeds since 1974. Vegetable Gardening, Sp...
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True Leaf Market | True Leaf Market Seed Company
Over half a million customers have chosen True Leaf Market seed company for non-GMO, heirloom & organic garden seeds since 1974. Vegetable Gardening, Sp...
trueleafmarket.com
True Leaf Market | True Leaf Market Seed Company
Over half a million customers have chosen True Leaf Market seed company for non-GMO, heirloom & organic garden seeds since 1974. Vegetable Gardening, Sp...
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Catscratch
5 year old buck +
Cheap is good! I hadn't looked at prices, but if they are anything like pumpkins one plant could probably provide yrs worth of seed if you wanted to save some back.Seems spendy @ 15 cents/seed most I found. I like this world better, where we're at less than a penny per seed. It's much easier to get cavalier with establishment when it's cheap.
True Leaf Market | True Leaf Market Seed Company
Over half a million customers have chosen True Leaf Market seed company for non-GMO, heirloom & organic garden seeds since 1974. Vegetable Gardening, Sp...
True Leaf Market | True Leaf Market Seed Company
Over half a million customers have chosen True Leaf Market seed company for non-GMO, heirloom & organic garden seeds since 1974. Vegetable Gardening, Sp...
True Leaf Market | True Leaf Market Seed Company
Over half a million customers have chosen True Leaf Market seed company for non-GMO, heirloom & organic garden seeds since 1974. Vegetable Gardening, Sp...
Im going to have to check out your supplier. Might get me experimenting with some stuff.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Yeah, I'm a fan of the heirlooms when they work. Those links were to an acorn, a butternut, and a general zucchini.
