Help me compare a Land Pride LP500 drill with a Genesis 5 Light drill

omicron1792

5 year old buck +
Just re-read this whole thread. MAN.....am I persistent! lol. I sold my Tar River 505 last night. Will pick up the GP 3P500 in a week or so. Still......I had to be home all day today.....and still no video or unbiased review by an owner of a LP or GP 3P500. Geeesh. I may be the first to do a video on this product. Even Tar River has LOTS of product reviews on their offerings.

Anyway.....took the plunge now that I saw one and found a slightly used one at a tolerable price. Things should not be this hard. Grin. Hope it works out as planned. Stay tuned.
You’re gonna be real happy with it my friend.
 

Foggy47

5 year old buck +
I made up this worksheet to use with the Tar River drill I have sold. After reading the GP set up manual I think I will NOT use the little baggies or cups they suggest and continue to use some Rubbermaid "under the bed" plastic storage bins to collect my seed when I calibrate. Thus my system is much like the Genesis drills.....I just do not have 'on board" storage of a collection tub. My "old" Saya has the same number of drop tubes and dimensions as the new Great Plains 3P 500.

What I do is hook up my drill and set it via the book or from past experience. Then I lift it about 6" off my floor and slip two of those clear plastic tubs under to catch the seeds. I make certain all the tubes are dropping seed through the openers.....then enpty the tubs and turn the drive wheel the proper footage as described In the math below. In the "new" GP drill I will need to figure our how many revolutions of their "crank" will get me the desired distiance. When I do it as said here.....I can see each row dropping seeds and somewhat compare uniformity across the drill as the seeds are caught in the tubs. (if something does not look right....stop! and figure out the solution)

Its then easy to tip the tubs to collect the seeds into the weigh container. I use empty plastic Folgers coffee containers to weigh the seeds on an electronic scale I bought from Amazon. (as I have collected so many of those Folgers plastic tubs). Fast , easy and precise.....and no hoses or bags to fumble with. I record the data and save it for future use. (I need to change my sheet slightly to provide more data to save).

Hope you can develop your own system like this. Works well for me.


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Foggy47

5 year old buck +
Pretty good video comparing brands here. Interesting stuff. Listen to the voice of experience here.

 

Foggy47

5 year old buck +
Went to a dealer in Wisconsin today.....and look what followed me home. 😉 12 hours driving today. (Sorry Mike.....had no time to get together.....had to keep moving).

Finally! I will get a first hand, owner review on this product. lol.

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omicron1792

5 year old buck +
Went to a dealer in Wisconsin today.....and look what followed me home. 😉 12 hours driving today. (Sorry Mike.....had no time to get together.....had to keep moving).

Finally! I will get a first hand, owner review on this product. lol.

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Atta boy.
 

Foggy47

5 year old buck +
Re-configured a rolling cart to hold my drill.....so I can move it in my pole shed. Much easier to place the drill and to hook it up with this cart. (much of my machinery is on carts....if it has a gear box or needs to be under a roof.). This worked out pretty well. I did drill a "Pail -full" of sunflower seeds....jsut to do a shakedown cruise on Tuesday. Seemed to do the job correctly.tempImageg6xpty.jpgtempImagemwycea.jpg
 

khizzle

Yearling... With promise
Do you have any thoughts on the 7.5” 7 row spacing vs. 6” 9 row spacing for the 3p500? Was this your preference or just what was available?


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Foggy47

5 year old buck +
Do you have any thoughts on the 7.5” 7 row spacing vs. 6” 9 row spacing for the 3p500? Was this your preference or just what was available?


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The 7.5" row spacing seems to be most prevalent among farmers. Folks in orchards seem to be the most frequent buyers on the 6" spacing. IMO...You likely will not find many drills on a sales yard with the narrow spacing. I bought a used drill.....and I doubt I would specify a narrow row width if I were to buy new. Not much to base that on......just what I have seen offered. I dont think one or the other is inherently a "bad" choice. You likely put down less seed per row with the 6" spacing.
 

khizzle

Yearling... With promise
The 7.5" row spacing seems to be most prevalent among farmers. Folks in orchards seem to be the most frequent buyers on the 6" spacing. IMO...You likely will not find many drills on a sales yard with the narrow spacing. I bought a used drill.....and I doubt I would specify a narrow row width if I were to buy new. Not much to base that on......just what I have seen offered. I dont think one or the other is inherently a "bad" choice. You likely put down less seed per row with the 6" spacing.

OK thanks for the feedback. I just got my LP 3p500 this week and it is the 7.5” spacing, but I had actually ordered the 6”. I just assumed for foodplots maybe closer would be better than with row crops. I wasn’t sure if I should be concerned or just roll with it. Sounds like it isn’t a factor.


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Wind Gypsy

5 year old buck +
OK thanks for the feedback. I just got my LP 3p500 this week and it is the 7.5” spacing, but I had actually ordered the 6”. I just assumed for foodplots maybe closer would be better than with row crops. I wasn’t sure if I should be concerned or just roll with it. Sounds like it isn’t a factor.


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I like the idea of narrower spacing. The same seeding rate would give each seed a little more real estate and in theory it should result in quicker canopy to block the sun and shade out weeds. The possible downside I could see on this drill that is already pretty light is that you’d get less weight per row if you have tougher to penetrate soil or residue. No idea if functionally there would be a notable difference between the two but I kind of doubt it on a foodplot level.

I’d hope they give you a credit on the price for giving you fewer rows.
 
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khizzle

Yearling... With promise
I like the idea of narrower spacing. The same seeding rate would give each seed a little more real estate and in theory it should result in quicker canopy to block the sun and shade out weeds. The possible downside I could see on this drill that is already pretty light is that you’d get less weight per row if you have tougher to penetrate soil or residue. No idea if functionally there would be a notable difference between the two but I kind of doubt it on a foodplot level.

I’d hope they give you a credit on the price for giving you fewer rows.

I did tell the dealer it wasn’t the exact model. He seemed concerned and promised to look into it to see what happened.
It has been on order since February and was supposed to be here at the end of April but delay after delay and I couldn’t tell if it wasn’t actually ordered or someone made a mistake. Almost thought maybe he found it at another dealership and just wanted to get the sale completed. I am planning to use it this weekend and hope it does good for me. I have silty clay so maybe more weight per row might be better. I did think tighter spacing would have its benefits.


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Wind Gypsy

5 year old buck +
I did tell the dealer it wasn’t the exact model. He seemed concerned and promised to look into it to see what happened.
It has been on order since February and was supposed to be here at the end of April but delay after delay and I couldn’t tell if it wasn’t actually ordered or someone made a mistake. Almost thought maybe he found it at another dealership and just wanted to get the sale completed. I am planning to use it this weekend and hope it does good for me. I have silty clay so maybe more weight per row might be better. I did think tighter spacing would have its benefits.


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Since the 3p500 was discontinued I wouldn’t be surprised if they took the order then scrambled to get whatever they could.
 
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