The Throw n’ Mow Method

Yellow sweet clover
Balansa
Red
Alfalfa
Chicory
Plantain

Flax
Sorghum
Dwarf BMR sorghum
Jap millet
Collards
Black eyed Susan
Phacelia


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I had some last minute additions to this blend for my new plot this year. I just ordered up some sun hemp, bee balm, and ragweed.
 
And they do not give away bee balm. I had to search around to find it for $256/lb. I ordered one ounce.
 
Christ SD bee balm is more expensive than gold loll. Curious on plantain pros n cons
 
Christ SD bee balm is more expensive than gold loll. Curious on plantain pros n cons

There are only pros. Good mineral scavenger, durable, deer eat it at the right time. Subordinate plant in that it doesn’t dominate. Always comes back, and for years.

It’s been a soldier in thick dead clay soil.


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SD what percentage of the mix does get plantain get? Also is it good on sandy typ soil?
 
I’ll throw in 1 lb/ac. I think plantain full rate is 4 lbs/ac. I don’t worry about getting a little hot on plantain. It does not crowd.

Far as sand goes, I’m not sure. You’d just have to put down $10 bill and give it a shot.


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I think this is plantain…..no? I have sandy soil and this grows great in wet shady areas. Never planted any…..just naturally occurring in my clover.image.jpg
 
SD if ysc red Alfalfa balsana n chickory are broadcasted together with tritacle around August 15th and then the existing rye crimped on top of the broadcasted seed blends would the clover mix actually grow enough to be seen n grazed before frost occurs. I understand that the tritacle would but I am curious if the other seed blends would be?
 
SD if ysc red Alfalfa balsana n chickory are broadcasted together with tritacle around August 15th and then the existing rye crimped on top of the broadcasted seed blends would the clover mix actually grow enough to be seen n grazed before frost occurs. I understand that the tritacle would but I am curious if the other seed blends would be?
I really don't know. I would have expected clovers to dominate after I rolled everything down last year. It was the exact opposite. I think a guy just has to try these things to keep the ball rolling.
 
You'll never need to buy Bee Balm again. It reseeds easily and spreads very rapidly. It's easy to kill though if it comes up where you don't want it.

I might have to start collecting my own seed to sell at that price!
 
By the way ....a pound of Bee Balm is $120 at Prairie Moon nursery. $8 for an ounce. Doesn't say how many seeds per ounce but I'm sure it's a ton, they're tiny!
 
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Hit 3 acres with 4oz/gallon gly this weekend. Mostly a mix of warm season grasses, sedge, milkweed and ragweed. Planning a throw/mow (or throw/roll depending on how wet the field is) application after I get a kill. I was wondering if you'd recommend 1 spray and let the thatch suppress weeds or wait a few weeks, spray again and throw/mow? Below is what's going to be thrown but I'm going to toss in a few bushels of rye as well.

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There's not a ton of residue covering the soil (in part from a semi-failed spray early in the spring) so I should get okay seed/soil contact. I am a little worried about too much thatch to push through for some of the clovers because in some areas it is pretty thick. Mowing I'm sure would be preferential but some areas can be pretty wet and I don't want to compress the soil or bury seed too deep by getting onto it with heavy equipment if it is soft.

Any thoughts?
 
Can you burn the residue after you've sprayed? That could get you the cleaner soil for seed to soil contact.

Most of those seeds are very small in nature, I think you'd be better off if you threw a cereal grain in there for a nurse crop. Just my opinion.
 
Can you burn the residue after you've sprayed? That could get you the cleaner soil for seed to soil contact.

Most of those seeds are very small in nature, I think you'd be better off if you threw a cereal grain in there for a nurse crop. Just my opinion.
Yep. No downside to always adding a grain as a nurse crop.

Pretty looking field. Should be awesome when you get it going.
 
Newbie why are you planting so early. It would seem mid August would be a better time??
 
Can you burn the residue after you've sprayed? That could get you the cleaner soil for seed to soil contact.

Most of those seeds are very small in nature, I think you'd be better off if you threw a cereal grain in there for a nurse crop. Just my opinion.
Yes, my apologies I forgot to include that. I was going to throw 6bu of Rye with the above
 
Newbie why are you planting so early. It would seem mid August would be a better time??
Well, that's still undecided.

I may let it sprout up and whack it again then plant in Aug. This was initially supposed to be a spring project but life intervened and I didn't get around to it. I had a field full of vegetation I needed to address and the weather was cooperative this weekend so I figured I burn it with some gly now. Historically, we've had some extremely dry weather Aug-Sept so I was considering getting things started in spring so they can establish before it gets dry. This field may have enough moisture with a good thatch layer on top to carry these through to fall, I'm not sure. I think if I wait until Aug I'll be planting on soil about as hard as concrete. I was half inclined to throw rye clover and chicory now, then come back in Aug and overseed brassicas to fill in any gaps.

I've got a history of letting exuberance get the best of me, patience hasn't been my strongest virtue. Maybe I should exercise some self restraint and wait off.

That's why I came here to get some feedback 🤣
 
Yep. No downside to always adding a grain as a nurse crop.

Pretty looking field. Should be awesome when you get it going.
Any recommendations? I plan to throw cereal rye at 2bu per acre, I just forgot to include that by accident. I'm afraid my land is too dang wet in the spring and too dang dry in late summer early/fall. That being said, I know late june through mid july is a very unconventional planting time. I was hoping a good thatch layer will help suppress most weeds and help retain moisture through the summer. I can be easily swayed though 🤣
 
Fall can be a good time to establish clovers for a few reasons, they are a hard seed and start slow, but fall is normally a time for increasing moisture as the months go on. Fall is also when weed germination is waning. If you fall plant and experience some success or even total failure, you can overseed from partial rate to 100% in the spring. Lots of ways to skin the cat, but thatchless throw-n-mow really only works with moisture, so keep that in mind.
 
May grab some buckwheat and throw/roll it this week then throw my rye brassica clover chicory in the fall. Seems likely to be best option for long term success
 
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