COVID

[yoderjac]

They tried to get me to take paxlovid due to them thinking I am high risk. They told me to expect rebound Covid. I thought taking it made no sense so I passed. Covid was gone in a couple days without it. Not sure why they give it to anyone that isn’t high risk.

I don't know if they do. I'm guessing it is an individual doctors decision. I was in the high risk group. Some folks, like you, only have a couple days discomfort with COVID and some don't even know they have it. Others end up hospitalized. You don't really know until you get it what the outcome will be.

 

[buckvelvet]

Anyone talking about this? These are facts from Pfizers own documents, did the FDA know & not release it?

https://dailyclout.io/report-53-cardiovascular-adverse-events/


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[yoderjac]

Anyone talking about this? These are facts from Pfizers own documents, did the FDA know & not release it?

https://dailyclout.io/report-53-cardiovascular-adverse-events/


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Looks like cherry picking to support a position to me.

 

[Foggy47]

Get better soon Jack.

 

[yoderjac]

Get better soon Jack.

Thanks for the well wishes.

 

[buckvelvet]

Looks like cherry picking to support a position to me.

I would like to congratulate you for coming to an astute conclusion of lunacy when it comes to data directly from Pfizers own trials. That unequivocally is why the famous phrase “you can’t handle the truth” exists.


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[yoderjac]

I would like to congratulate you for coming to an astute conclusion of lunacy when it comes to data directly from Pfizers own trials. That unequivocally is why the famous phrase “you can’t handle the truth” exists.


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Look at the source... Cherry picker for eyeballs.

 

[OakSeeds]

Some people are talking about the material you cite; however, it doesn't appear the conversation is widespread. The work you cite is an article (actually an opinion piece) that appeared in the Daily Clout. Here's how one fact-checking group perceives the "Clout."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dailyclout-bias/
"Founded in 2016 by Naomi Wolf, the DailyClout is a website/blog that publishes news and opinions that currently align with an anti-establishment perspective. Naomi Wolf is an author who is known to be an advocate of Third Wave Feminism in the 1990s. However, since 2014 Wolf has been criticized for promoting conspiracy theories. In 2021, Naomi Wolf’s Twitter account was suspended due to promoting Covid-19 vaccine disinformation. " Here's their published ranking

CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE​

"Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per-article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources.
Overall, we rate the Daily Clout a right-biased conspiracy and pseudoscience website based on promoting false or unproven claims regarding Covid-19 and world governments. (D. Van Zandt 01/02/2023)"

Here is another example of highly inaccurate information ... the danger to pregnant women
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-covid-19-vaccine-and-pregnancy/10427057002/
www.factcheck.org/2022/08/scicheck-covid-19-vaccination-doesnt-increase-miscarriage-risk-contrary-to-naomi-wolfs-spurious-stat/
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/01/viral-video-makes-false-and-unsupported-claims-about-vaccines/

And if you really want to know about the transformation of Noami, please read the following (it's a hoot)
https://www.businessinsider.com/whos-afraid-of-naomi-wolf-2021-6
this one is interesting but not nearly as complete as the first ...
https://newrepublic.com/article/162702/naomi-wolf-madness-feminist-icon-antivaxxer

Hey, I saw it on the internet; it's gotta be true.
A. Lincoln

 

[yoderjac]

Some people are talking about the material you cite; however, it doesn't appear the conversation is widespread. The work you cite is an article (actually an opinion piece) that appeared in the Daily Clout. Here's how one fact-checking group perceives the "Clout."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dailyclout-bias/
"Founded in 2016 by Naomi Wolf, the DailyClout is a website/blog that publishes news and opinions that currently align with an anti-establishment perspective. Naomi Wolf is an author who is known to be an advocate of Third Wave Feminism in the 1990s. However, since 2014 Wolf has been criticized for promoting conspiracy theories. In 2021, Naomi Wolf’s Twitter account was suspended due to promoting Covid-19 vaccine disinformation. " Here's their published ranking

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CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE​

"Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per-article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources.
Overall, we rate the Daily Clout a right-biased conspiracy and pseudoscience website based on promoting false or unproven claims regarding Covid-19 and world governments. (D. Van Zandt 01/02/2023)"

Here is another example of highly inaccurate information ... the danger to pregnant women
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-covid-19-vaccine-and-pregnancy/10427057002/
www.factcheck.org/2022/08/scicheck-covid-19-vaccination-doesnt-increase-miscarriage-risk-contrary-to-naomi-wolfs-spurious-stat/
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/01/viral-video-makes-false-and-unsupported-claims-about-vaccines/

And if you really want to know about the transformation of Noami, please read the following (it's a hoot)
https://www.businessinsider.com/whos-afraid-of-naomi-wolf-2021-6
this one is interesting but not nearly as complete as the first ...
https://newrepublic.com/article/162702/naomi-wolf-madness-feminist-icon-antivaxxer

Hey, I saw it on the internet; it's gotta be true.
A. Lincoln

I have to say, it is really understandable how folks get taken for a ride. It is becoming harder and harder to discern fact from fiction on the internet.

 

[buckvelvet]

People dying at much higher rate sighted by group life insurance companies in the working ages of 18-40 is not lies.

I don’t think its a plausible to look around at deaths spiking since the rollout of vaccines is deniable. I don’t think people can allow themselves the forgiveness that they were entirely deceived by govt, big pharma, media, etc.

I don’t wish harm to anyone here or the globe for that matter but people need to awaken to the fact that people like bill gates bloviated about decreasing the population many years before 2020 and so did the WEF. Its entirely a sad reality the state of our nation & it’s people.

55k volunteers across the us & internationally helped dissect the Pfizer documents that were released. You can claim bias, you can claim lots of things about anyone you choose. You cannot simply doubt the data when its direct from the Pharmaceutical companies own studies. I digress that we are at a state where neighbor distrusts neighbor and nation against nation.

The only hope for America is an awakening to God, his wisdom, & direction is what we as a whole lack.


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[Bill Loser]

I have to say, it is really understandable how folks get taken for a ride. It is becoming harder and harder to discern fact from fiction on the internet.

Right? Especially when there are so few to tell us what the actual truth is!

 

[Bill]

 

[Bill]

“It doesn’t seem fair, does it Norm, that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world who have to go to bed stupid every night?”

Cliff Calvin

 

[Bill Loser]

Anyone talking about this? These are facts from Pfizers own documents, did the FDA know & not release it?

https://dailyclout.io/report-53-cardiovascular-adverse-events/


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Confirmation bias! Or conspiracy theory! Or ...oh hell I can't remember what we're calling anything we don't want to see today!

 

[bwoods11]

I have to say, it is really understandable how folks get taken for a ride. It is becoming harder and harder to discern fact from fiction on the internet.

You have definitely been taken for a ride .. ..more so then anyone I’ve ever seen on any forums !

 

[yoderjac]

People dying at much higher rate sighted by group life insurance companies in the working ages of 18-40 is not lies.

I don’t think its a plausible to look around at deaths spiking since the rollout of vaccines is deniable. I don’t think people can allow themselves the forgiveness that they were entirely deceived by govt, big pharma, media, etc.

I don’t wish harm to anyone here or the globe for that matter but people need to awaken to the fact that people like bill gates bloviated about decreasing the population many years before 2020 and so did the WEF. Its entirely a sad reality the state of our nation & it’s people.

55k volunteers across the us & internationally helped dissect the Pfizer documents that were released. You can claim bias, you can claim lots of things about anyone you choose. You cannot simply doubt the data when its direct from the Pharmaceutical companies own studies. I digress that we are at a state where neighbor distrusts neighbor and nation against nation.

The only hope for America is an awakening to God, his wisdom, & direction is what we as a whole lack.


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I completely agree with the last sentence!

 

[Skeeter]

I see those as accepting consequences of one's personal choices. Other than the Military, which has been able for force vaccinations long before COVID, I saw no one forces to take the jab. Some, had to a higher prices to live by their principles; some were unwilling to pay the price.

In that line of thinking, everything that happens to a person is because of a choice that they made. Got hit by a drunk driver, too bad. You made the choice to be where you were at that point in time. You could have made different choices that would have put you outside of the path of the drunk driver.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

By far the best thing to respond to on this thread! A huge THANK YOU for your service!!!!

Thank you Catscratch. Appreciate the kind words.

 

[yoderjac]

In that line of thinking, everything that happens to a person is because of a choice that they made. Got hit by a drunk driver, too bad. You made the choice to be where you were at that point in time. You could have made different choices that would have put you outside of the path of the drunk driver.

No, that is not my reasoning at all. While it is true that all of our choices lead to outcomes foreseen and not, this is quite different. It is not a speculation into the future. It is a direct thoughtful choice an individual can make. I'm opposed to X, I'm being coerced (not forced) into X. I have an option that is costly. Do I bow to the coercion or do I pay the price. Very different from do I drive today because I might be in an accident caused by another. One situation can be a thoughtful decision based on conscience. The other is a risk evaluation.

 

[Skeeter]

No, that is not my reasoning at all. While it is true that all of our choices lead to outcomes foreseen and not, this is quite different. It is not a speculation into the future. It is a direct thoughtful choice an individual can make. I'm opposed to X, I'm being coerced (not forced) into X. I have an option that is costly. Do I bow to the coercion or do I pay the price. Very different from do I drive today because I might be in an accident caused by another. One situation can be a thoughtful decision based on conscience. The other is a risk evaluation.

When the drunk driver is coming at you down the road, you can choose to swerve or see if they swerve, your choice.