Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

[H20fwler]

Bill if you took some time to understand how foreign actors use the stuff that you repeat to cause Americans to distrust their own institutions and destabilize our country you would understand why I write the things I do.

China and their relationship to our fentanyl crisis is a similar parallel. Fentanyl is the #1 killer of 18-24 year olds. Nothing is bigger. Not car crashes, not cancer not guns. It has killed more Americans than every war combined for the last 100 years.

The CCP partnered with the Mexican cartels for the influx of dollars. BUT, what became more valuable to them than the dollars was the destabilizing effect it had on our society. Thats what we don’t understand well enough! Conspiracy theories destabilize our country and we are helping them do it. And the CCP values that more than pallets of money coming into their pathetic, down sliding economy.

We are playing a short game. Russia and China are playing a long game. We need to wise up to that. We also need to wise up to the fact that foreign entities have influence here and are getting Americans to spread this crap and we keep buying it.

You think our country isn’t doing the same thing to them?
A LOT of the so-called conspiracy theories floated over the last 8 years here have proven to be facts...I don't think China and Russia come up with as many as you think. I think the left is guiltier than both those countries put together.

 

[Bill Loser]

Bill if you took some time to understand how foreign actors use the stuff that you repeat to cause Americans to distrust their own institutions and destabilize our country you would understand why I write the things I do.

China and their relationship to our fentanyl crisis is a similar parallel. Fentanyl is the #1 killer of 18-24 year olds. Nothing is bigger. Not car crashes, not cancer not guns. It has killed more Americans than every war combined for the last 100 years.

The CCP partnered with the Mexican cartels for the influx of dollars. BUT, what became more valuable to them than the dollars was the destabilizing effect it had on our society. Thats what we don’t understand well enough! Conspiracy theories destabilize our country and we are helping them do it. And the CCP values that more than pallets of money coming into their pathetic, down sliding economy.

We are playing a short game. Russia and China are playing a long game. We need to wise up to that. We also need to wise up to the fact that foreign entities have influence here and are getting Americans to spread this crap and we keep buying it.

All led by Trump by bet too right?? ?
You need to get away from MSNBC and CNN and get out into the real world and see what's actually going on out here. We are being turned into a socialist/communist country and the charge is being led by the schools and slowly but surely it is taking more and more over in the churches also .

 

[Westwind]

You think our country isn’t doing the same thing to them?
A LOT of the so-called conspiracy theories floated over the last 8 years here have proven to be facts...I don't think China and Russia come up with as many as you think. I think the left is guiltier than both those countries put together.

Of course we do. And we can still easily take the high road despite our many missteps.

There is no moral equivalency. Russian atrocities are many. Recent atrocities.

China- same. The first fentanyl the cartels distributed here was made in China. The precursors all come from china. Again, fentanyl has killed more Americans than have been killed in war the last 100 years. Each day, the equivalent of a plane crash gets killed in the U.S. by the drug they supply. They have no qualms openly working with the violent cartels who cut the heads off of people south of our border.

China and Russia are at war with us. We just don't seem to know it. But yeah, it’s the left that is the problem. And the point of their social media endeavors. Russia is the best at it, they have been doing it since newspapers were the main way to get the job done.

As for the left- I lose track of what narrative we like… if they are ineffective buffoons or deep state super operatives.

 

[Westwind]

All led by Trump by bet too right?? ?
You need to get away from MSNBC and CNN and get out into the real world and see what's actually going on out here. We are being turned into a socialist/communist country and the charge is being led by the schools and slowly but surely it is taking more and more over in the churches also .

Bill- I’m going to break eggs with hammers here. Cable news is for dip$hits who can’t read. Savvy?

I actually see a lot of things I am hopeful for. Secure borders, deporting criminals, people in the cabinet that are Russia realists, signs that the trump administration isn’t just going to hand over Ukraine, signs that maybe the tariff threats will shake our neighbors into action on things we want them to take action on…. This might turn out very nicely.

All while the current Whitehouse buffoon continues to pardon and commute every criminal he can find. Nice legacy.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

Nowhere did I say screw the kids. Way to embellish, nice job.
What I did say is that yes, it's been shown time and again that public schools are in fact socialist indoctrination camps. Not all teachers buy into it, I know quite a few that don't and natty you don't strike me as 1 that does. But you also know full well that the vast vast majority do and they freely admit it and flaunt it. Not to mention push their f'd up beliefs on the kids you are so worried about
In my opinion, we shouldn't have to waste time for all to cater to a few just because as you put it, they have shot ass parents. It's the parents issue, not mine or my kids or the schools. Period end of story.
Again, it's the we have to cater to everyone and everyone is a winner and is special bs that has messed this country up more than anything else.

Then I owe you an apology for misreading you or reading too deeply between the lines about what you were saying.

I guess we just have to disagree on this one. I live in one of the most liberal states in the country...and what you are saying about public schools being socialist communist indoctrination camps is something that I am just not seeing Bill...at least not in Massachusetts. 95% of my colleagues are left leaning and/or flat out liberals...they come to work on time every day, they work their asses off, they form great relationships with their students, and they just teach exactly what they are suppose to...nothing more. Nothing less. They are good and talented people. Politically I disagree with just about everything they believe in. But it just never comes up. We hang out together. We have beers on the weekends. We ski and MTN. bike together. Man, isn't that the way it should be? Sensible adults who, despite their political differences, can find value in each other and form genuine relationships with each other.

So I don't make the same mistake, can I ask for clarification then? If those kids, who are born with NOTHING and don't have a pot to piss in, aren't taken care of by our schools, then what happens to them? You say it's not the responsibility of the schools. It's their parents' responsibility. But if there are NO parents....or yes, in my words, shit ass parents, is it in your opinion just social Darwinism at work? Sucks to be them? It sounds like your attitude is "screw them" which is why I said that. Since that's not the case, what do we do with these kids? I am trying to reconcile your two statements in red.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

@Natty Bumppo hats off man. I can’t tell you how awesome I think that is.

That is doing good in the world.

Thanks Westwind. Appreciate that.

 

[Tree Spud]

I am not singling out anyone specifically, and this can be a hard topic for some to accept, but one would have to be a bit naïve or blind to think that our Public schools & Universities are not indoctrinating our children. Not all teachers are in support of this and I am sure the Teachers Union plays a big role in this. All of these below were orchestrated by the Gov't and the schools. They have all taken power away from parents, shielded parents from what is going on, and tried to shutdown parental voice and control of their kids in schools.

- DEI
- Transgender transformation drugs & surgery support
- Men/boys playing in women's sport
- Men/boys using women's lockerooms & bathrooms
- White priviledge
- Gender & pronoun selection
- Elimination of prayer & pledge of allegiance
- Participation trophy's
- Safe spaces
- Removal of parents from school meetings (the FBI actually started identifying these parents who raised their voice in opposition to these policies as Domestic Terrorists)
- Putting up Muslim flags in classrooms and trying to eliminate US flags
- Racial/gender preference vs merit in admissions
- Covid shutdown (this backfired on the libs as parents were able to watch what was going on in school classrooms)
- Attempt to shutdown school choice
- Refusal to rent empty school owned properties/bldgs to schools of faith
- Support of religious hate & genocide

You may not like it being described as socialism, but this is what the State does in Socialistic & Communistic countries. . . The State Knows Best. It removes control from parents and gives it to the State & Institutions. To say that our schools are sacred and should not be challenged or questioned is foolish. They are in charge of one of our most important resources ... our kids.

I have a friend who is school administrator who is in charge of a large public school system. He said the best thing to happen in Wis was the elimination of the Teachers Union. Without the union, he could promote young teachers with fresh and innovative ideas, and not be locked into seniority hires & promotion.

 

[Nimrod]

I am not singling out anyone specifically, and this can be a hard topic for some to accept, but one would have to be a bit naïve or blind to think that our Public schools & Universities are not indoctrinating our children. Not all teachers are in support of this and I am sure the Teachers Union plays a big role in this. All of these below were orchestrated by the Gov't and the schools. They have all taken power away from parents, shielded parents from what is going on, and tried to shutdown parental voice and control of their kids in schools.

- DEI
- Transgender transformation drugs & surgery support
- Men/boys playing in women's sport
- Men/boys using women's lockerooms & bathrooms
- White priviledge
- Gender & pronoun selection
- Elimination of prayer & pledge of allegiance
- Participation trophy's
- Safe spaces
- Removal of parents from school meetings (the FBI actually started identifying these parents who raised their voice in opposition to these policies as Domestic Terrorists)
- Putting up Muslim flags in classrooms and trying to eliminate US flags
- Racial/gender preference vs merit in admissions
- Covid shutdown (this backfired on the libs as parents were able to watch what was going on in school classrooms)
- Attempt to shutdown school choice
- Refusal to rent empty school owned properties/bldgs to schools of faith
- Support of religious hate & genocide

You may not like it being described as socialism, but this is what the State does in Socialistic & Communistic countries. . . The State Knows Best. It removes control from parents and gives it to the State & Institutions. To say that our schools are sacred and should not be challenged or questioned is foolish. They are in charge of one of our most important resources ... our kids.

I have a friend who is school administrator who is in charge of a large public school system. He said the best thing to happen in Wis was the elimination of the Teachers Union. Without the union, he could promote young teachers with fresh and innovative ideas, and not be locked into seniority hires & promotion.

You are spot on with the Wisconsin School Union. Back in the day, I attended Parent/Teacher meetings for my step son. Prior the elimination of the Teachers Union one particular teacher (that had tenure) was laid-back in jeans and polo shirt, their book shelf behind their desk was messy and in disarray. It appeared the Teacher did not have a genuine interest for the students.

We met after the elimination of the Unions power in Wisconsin and that Teacher was wearing a suit and tie, their book shelf behind their desk, looked like a Library shelf. That teacher was alert and attentive to the students and us as parents. It was such an eye opener that I have shared this experience with many other hard working tax payers of the state of Wisconsin.

 

[Bill Loser]

Then I owe you an apology for misreading you or reading too deeply between the lines about what you were saying.

I guess we just have to disagree on this one. I live in one of the most liberal states in the country...and what you are saying about public schools being socialist communist indoctrination camps is something that I am just not seeing Bill...at least not in Massachusetts. 95% of my colleagues are left leaning and/or flat out liberals...they come to work on time every day, they work their asses off, they form great relationships with their students, and they just teach exactly what they are suppose to...nothing more. Nothing less. They are good and talented people. Politically I disagree with just about everything they believe in. But it just never comes up. We hang out together. We have beers on the weekends. We ski and MTN. bike together. Man, isn't that the way it should be? Sensible adults who, despite their political differences, can find value in each other and form genuine relationships with each other.

So I don't make the same mistake, can I ask for clarification then? If those kids, who are born with NOTHING and don't have a pot to piss in, aren't taken care of by our schools, then what happens to them? You say it's not the responsibility of the schools. It's their parents' responsibility. But if there are NO parents....or yes, in my words, shit ass parents, is it in your opinion just social Darwinism at work? Sucks to be them? It sounds like your attitude is "screw them" which is why I said that. Since that's not the case, what do we do with these kids? I am trying to reconcile your two statements in red.

I stand by what I said, and what I said is truth. That said, I do truly believe you are one of the good ones.

 

[Bill Loser]

I am not singling out anyone specifically, and this can be a hard topic for some to accept, but one would have to be a bit naïve or blind to think that our Public schools & Universities are not indoctrinating our children. Not all teachers are in support of this and I am sure the Teachers Union plays a big role in this. All of these below were orchestrated by the Gov't and the schools. They have all taken power away from parents, shielded parents from what is going on, and tried to shutdown parental voice and control of their kids in schools.

- DEI
- Transgender transformation drugs & surgery support
- Men/boys playing in women's sport
- Men/boys using women's lockerooms & bathrooms
- White priviledge
- Gender & pronoun selection
- Elimination of prayer & pledge of allegiance
- Participation trophy's
- Safe spaces
- Removal of parents from school meetings (the FBI actually started identifying these parents who raised their voice in opposition to these policies as Domestic Terrorists)
- Putting up Muslim flags in classrooms and trying to eliminate US flags
- Racial/gender preference vs merit in admissions
- Covid shutdown (this backfired on the libs as parents were able to watch what was going on in school classrooms)
- Attempt to shutdown school choice
- Refusal to rent empty school owned properties/bldgs to schools of faith
- Support of religious hate & genocide

You may not like it being described as socialism, but this is what the State does in Socialistic & Communistic countries. . . The State Knows Best. It removes control from parents and gives it to the State & Institutions. To say that our schools are sacred and should not be challenged or questioned is foolish. They are in charge of one of our most important resources ... our kids.

I have a friend who is school administrator who is in charge of a large public school system. He said the best thing to happen in Wis was the elimination of the Teachers Union. Without the union, he could promote young teachers with fresh and innovative ideas, and not be locked into seniority hires & promotion.

Thanks you for this tree spud. I didn't want to spend the time to spell it all out for west wind, you did fantastic.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

I am not singling out anyone specifically, and this can be a hard topic for some to accept, but one would have to be a bit naïve or blind to think that our Public schools & Universities are not indoctrinating our children. Not all teachers are in support of this and I am sure the Teachers Union plays a big role in this. All of these below were orchestrated by the Gov't and the schools. They have all taken power away from parents, shielded parents from what is going on, and tried to shutdown parental voice and control of their kids in schools.

- DEI
- Transgender transformation drugs & surgery support
- Men/boys playing in women's sport
- Men/boys using women's lockerooms & bathrooms
- White priviledge
- Gender & pronoun selection
- Elimination of prayer & pledge of allegiance
- Participation trophy's
- Safe spaces
- Removal of parents from school meetings (the FBI actually started identifying these parents who raised their voice in opposition to these policies as Domestic Terrorists)
- Putting up Muslim flags in classrooms and trying to eliminate US flags
- Racial/gender preference vs merit in admissions
- Covid shutdown (this backfired on the libs as parents were able to watch what was going on in school classrooms)
- Attempt to shutdown school choice
- Refusal to rent empty school owned properties/bldgs to schools of faith
- Support of religious hate & genocide

You may not like it being described as socialism, but this is what the State does in Socialistic & Communistic countries. . . The State Knows Best. It removes control from parents and gives it to the State & Institutions. To say that our schools are sacred and should not be challenged or questioned is foolish. They are in charge of one of our most important resources ... our kids.

I have a friend who is school administrator who is in charge of a large public school system. He said the best thing to happen in Wis was the elimination of the Teachers Union. Without the union, he could promote young teachers with fresh and innovative ideas, and not be locked into seniority hires & promotion.

Appreciate your thoughts Tree Spud. I might be naive. I've considered that before.

Are you equating LIBERALISM and COMMUNISM? Your list sounds like a bunch of liberal bullets, not necessarily communist manifesto kind of stuff. I don't think any of that went on in East Germany in the 4 decades after WWII. Regardless, I loathe 95% of your bullets. And it certainly happens...maybe more so in colleges and universities. But almost none of that is happening in my very liberal public high school. Again, I'm not saying it isn't happening anywhere. Not saying our schools are sacred. Not saying they couldn't use some overhaul. I just don't think they are the communistic gulags you and Bill and are making them out to be. So yes...I could be naive. But I'm a conservative...I've been teaching for 28 years...in a very liberal Massachusetts...and I just don't see it to the extent that some think it's happening.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

I stand by what I said, and what I said is truth. That said, I do truly believe you are one of the good ones.

OK. Fair enough Bill.

And thank you.

 

[Bill Loser]

Appreciate your thoughts Tree Spud. I might be naive. I've considered that before.

Are you equating LIBERALISM and COMMUNISM? Your list sounds like a bunch of liberal bullets, not necessarily communist manifesto kind of stuff. I don't think any of that went on in East Germany in the 4 decades after WWII. Regardless, I loathe 95% of your bullets. And it certainly happens...maybe more so in colleges and universities. But almost none of that is happening in my very liberal public high school. Again, I'm not saying it isn't happening anywhere. Not saying our schools are sacred. Not saying they couldn't use some overhaul. I just don't think they are the communistic gulags you and Bill and are making them out to be. So yes...I could be naive. But I'm a conservative...I've been teaching for 28 years...in a very liberal Massachusetts...and I just don't see it to the extent that some think it's happening.

Thing is Natty, liberalism as it is today is communism/socialism at its roots. We are lucky enough to live in a very conservative area and the school is really for the most part conservative. BUT most of that list still goes on here. We have a Spanish teacher who punishes the kids if they call HER Mrs. They must call her by her weird pronouns. We have had the stupid kids acting like cats and dogs, my own son was punished because he dared bark back at one of them. We have the common core shit. We even had a teacher preaching to the kids the evils of guns and even worse hunting(IN WISCONSIN).
The list could go on and on including pride week and trans day. My oldest was punished because he chose not to participate in pride week and praise all the pretend gays on school.
But the good, they still say the pledge of allegiance every day. A lot of the teachers are very very good . Problem.is.the bad ones are so bad they give all a bad name.

 

[H20fwler]

Of course we do. And we can still easily take the high road despite our many missteps.

There is no moral equivalency. Russian atrocities are many. Recent atrocities.

China- same. The first fentanyl the cartels distributed here was made in China. The precursors all come from china. Again, fentanyl has killed more Americans than have been killed in war the last 100 years. Each day, the equivalent of a plane crash gets killed in the U.S. by the drug they supply. They have no qualms openly working with the violent cartels who cut the heads off of people south of our border.

China and Russia are at war with us. We just don't seem to know it. But yeah, it’s the left that is the problem. And the point of their social media endeavors. Russia is the best at it, they have been doing it since newspapers were the main way to get the job done.

As for the left- I lose track of what narrative we like… if they are ineffective buffoons or deep state super operatives.

It's nice to see you so concerned about fentanyl, I'm sure you will be very supportive of the Trump administration’s efforts at the border then.

I personally do not have the fear of Russia you do; they are in no way near the country they were thirty years ago. I think there even could be a path to shoring up some of the USA/Russia relationship issues that could benefit both countries as far as trade and tourism...it could help our farmers with grain trade and could be a blessing to the fur industry...I know I would sure like to see racoons worth something again.

Now China I do not trust at all and can't believe we still openly trade with them as much as we do...they are a global threat.

 

[Westwind]

It's nice to see you so concerned about fentanyl, I'm sure you will be very supportive of the Trump administration’s efforts at the border then.

I personally do not have the fear of Russia you do; they are in no way near the country they were thirty years ago. I think there even could be a path to shoring up some of the USA/Russia relationship issues that could benefit both countries as far as trade and tourism...it could help our farmers with grain trade and could be a blessing to the fur industry...I know I would sure like to see racoons worth something again.

Now China I do not trust at all and can't believe we still openly trade with them as much as we do...they are a global threat.

Biden ignored the fentanyl crisis. Trump may be getting action on it before being sworn in, so yeah I’m pretty hopeful. It appears the cartels are moving a LOT of kilos right now in anticipation of the changes about to take place at the border. I stack the cartels kilos and seize their ill gotten gains so you’re not telling me anything I haven’t seen with my own eyes.

Tourism in Russia- well it would be great as long as you aren’t arrested on false charges of espionage and held for a prisoner swap. I sold a lot of fur in the 80’s. I’d love to trap again but that ship has sailed.

China? Yeah, not our friends either.

Again, we are at war with both. They know it, we don’t.

 

[Westwind]

I am not singling out anyone specifically, and this can be a hard topic for some to accept, but one would have to be a bit naïve or blind to think that our Public schools & Universities are not indoctrinating our children. Not all teachers are in support of this and I am sure the Teachers Union plays a big role in this. All of these below were orchestrated by the Gov't and the schools. They have all taken power away from parents, shielded parents from what is going on, and tried to shutdown parental voice and control of their kids in schools.

- DEI
- Transgender transformation drugs & surgery support
- Men/boys playing in women's sport
- Men/boys using women's lockerooms & bathrooms
- White priviledge
- Gender & pronoun selection
- Elimination of prayer & pledge of allegiance
- Participation trophy's
- Safe spaces
- Removal of parents from school meetings (the FBI actually started identifying these parents who raised their voice in opposition to these policies as Domestic Terrorists)
- Putting up Muslim flags in classrooms and trying to eliminate US flags
- Racial/gender preference vs merit in admissions
- Covid shutdown (this backfired on the libs as parents were able to watch what was going on in school classrooms)
- Attempt to shutdown school choice
- Refusal to rent empty school owned properties/bldgs to schools of faith
- Support of religious hate & genocide

You may not like it being described as socialism, but this is what the State does in Socialistic & Communistic countries. . . The State Knows Best. It removes control from parents and gives it to the State & Institutions. To say that our schools are sacred and should not be challenged or questioned is foolish. They are in charge of one of our most important resources ... our kids.

I have a friend who is school administrator who is in charge of a large public school system. He said the best thing to happen in Wis was the elimination of the Teachers Union. Without the union, he could promote young teachers with fresh and innovative ideas, and not be locked into seniority hires & promotion.

You left out litter boxes in the bathrooms.

Since your friend the school administrator no longer has the impediment of the teachers union, can you check back with him and let us know all the actions he has taken to solve the problems with loser parents, discipline problems, how he increased test scores, got kids ready for the trades and created opportunities for kids that want to go to college? Or has another unseen Barrier sprung up that can’t be solved while he drinks lattes and plans his next vacation? Because this dude sounds like he was feeding you good old Excuse #3 Of Why I Was Not An Effective Administrator. Be prepared for “So We Don’t Get Sued and Because The Department Of Education Keeps Me From Not Sucking At My Job.

 

[Westwind]

Prior the elimination of the Teachers Union one particular teacher (that had tenure) was laid-back in jeans and polo shirt, their book shelf behind their desk was messy and in disarray. It appeared the Teacher did not have a genuine interest for the students.

Could be he was straightened out “after the gloves came off”.

Could also be something you weren’t aware of going on in his life like a dying parent, serious illness in the family, kid in the hospital, who knows. None of us know what someone else is going through. And yes, maybe he just sucks. Just like 10% of employees in every workplace.

I am gratified he cleaned up his messy bookshelf for you.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Then I owe you an apology for misreading you or reading too deeply between the lines about what you were saying.

I guess we just have to disagree on this one. I live in one of the most liberal states in the country...and what you are saying about public schools being socialist communist indoctrination camps is something that I am just not seeing Bill...at least not in Massachusetts. 95% of my colleagues are left leaning and/or flat out liberals...they come to work on time every day, they work their asses off, they form great relationships with their students, and they just teach exactly what they are suppose to...nothing more. Nothing less. They are good and talented people. Politically I disagree with just about everything they believe in. But it just never comes up. We hang out together. We have beers on the weekends. We ski and MTN. bike together. Man, isn't that the way it should be? Sensible adults who, despite their political differences, can find value in each other and form genuine relationships with each other.

So I don't make the same mistake, can I ask for clarification then? If those kids, who are born with NOTHING and don't have a pot to piss in, aren't taken care of by our schools, then what happens to them? You say it's not the responsibility of the schools. It's their parents' responsibility. But if there are NO parents....or yes, in my words, shit ass parents, is it in your opinion just social Darwinism at work? Sucks to be them? It sounds like your attitude is "screw them" which is why I said that. Since that's not the case, what do we do with these kids? I am trying to reconcile your two statements in red.

Agreed. Many of us don't act like adults - name-calling, finger-pointing, screaming & shouting, not even listening to each other (or considering another's points/ideas), or outright violence. Yet many of us call ourselves "Christians." Really????????? What examples are WE setting for those younger?????

I have some horrible parents on my in-laws side. Drugs, alcohol abuse, child neglect, net even making sure they get to school every day. For kids such as those - and there are many in the U.S. (superior country/society that we claim to be) - do we as a society just toss them to the side?? (I'm agreeing with your points). Eventually those kinds of kids turn out to be more problems for society as a whole.

My wife and I both went to public schools, and we never had any kind of "sit on your butt and live off others" ideology taught to us. It was just the opposite - study hard, learn a skill / profession, support yourselves and your families, and be a benefit to society. Just because some accuse "commie indoctrination" for political benefit - doesn't make it true. Our sons never had any of that supposed BS "commie-sh##" to them either. They both finished public schools, went to college, and work every day, in good careers. So --- for those who spout crap --- let's stop with broad-based, fact-devoid BS to make themselves feel better. I agree with what Natty is saying here. Schools play an important role ...... sometimes - sadly - maybe the only structured role in some kids lives.

 

[Westwind]

Since fur came up- Doesn’t look good. My dad and I still have gobs of conibears. Looks like they are staying in storage.

I looked at the local fur buyers site in the early fall. I really like to trap muskrats and would trap on the Mississippi River for the pure enjoyment of it but the only rats they would take are skinned/stretched. Can’t say I ever enjoyed that part other than the camaraderie of a bunch of guys working together.

 

[Mortenson]

According to my wife, based on social media, nearly every school teacher hates their job and talks about how hard it is. My opinion is that things are way worse than they used to be. I went to elementary ed in the 80s. My memory is that those women genuinely liked being there and teaching us.