Oaks: Let's have a hard conversation

Sawtooths do the same for me (hold onto their leaves through the winter). It's a great alternative to cedar trees when looking for a screen, but you wouldn't want to use them as a screen where you don't want deer (road) because they do have a draw for a couple of weeks.
We got around 5 feet of snow the first week of rifle season and the deer were coming in and eating the leaves off my sawtooth trees. The branches were held down nicely for them!
 

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I was in town today. I took several pictures of swamp white oaks vs burr oaks. I really like how the SWO hangs onto those leaves into the winter. Also love the later acorn drop. Also got a picture of a crab apple tree in front of McDonalds. That thing was bigly loaded with little apples. I hope to see crabs like that in my woods some day. Hopefully I convince a few of you to plant some SWO and crab apples.
I thought of this post when I went to check a couple of trail cameras on a permission property near my house. Out of all the trees in a 2 acre island of mostly oaks, only the swamp white oaks were holding their leaves. There are also a few red oaks and some other very big oaks that I believe are burrs. It gave me the idea to cut a handful of competing trees away from the SWO this winter. The owner of the property has given me free reign to cut dead stuff and thin where it might be beneficial. The SWO were the only whites that had acorns this year. They were very small, but they were the best tasting acorns I have tried. The only other oaks that had acorns were a couple of red oaks on the north property line. (I knew enough not to taste test those.)
 
My concordias were holding most of their leaves last week, was very happy about that. I’ve heard shingles hold well too and the bitter small acorns shouldn’t attract much


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Are swamp White oaks only for wetter ground?? Any good in uplands?
 
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