New releases ,,

[wooduck]

U of m ,, new releases (supersnap ) and (Big Flirt ) ,,, both honeycrisp crosses supersnap is said to be crisper than honeycrisp and hardier with much less disease pressure much easier to grow same ripening season mid to late sept in Minnesota and hang longer ,,, Big flirt , , large apple sweet also a honeycrisp cross less fungal problems ,, Both these apples will be available to anyone that contacts the university,,, Other apple news sweetango will go off patent in 2027 and will be open for scion wood exchange and private grafting

 

[rocksnstumps]

So how does triumph stack up against supersnap? Think you probably have some fruit off triumph by now for a bit of an opinion. One I planted for a friend is a number of yrs from fruit production. He or really his wife are always asking about growing the latest hot topic apples from the supermarket but don't think about the zero care for apples that happens at their hunting property. So "honeycrisp like" with zero spraying program is the elusive goal for any new plantings I help them with

 

[bigboreblr]

honeycrisp x enterprise will be off patent soon too.

One that caght my eye was big deer from SLN. Good crabapple found from planting 100 sweetango seeds.

 

[RGrizzzz]

Do I need to be a commercial grower to get access to the trees? (Assuming I'm willing to pay the costs)

https://superiorfruitinnovations.um...2wrP_xwYqeNDd5Kw-Q_aem_oCFzixhfAbcjvWPmWPHxEg

 

[bigboreblr]

Sweettango catches my eye. Would squeeze a spot for that or topwork something existing.

The forbiden fruit of washington patent expires 2032. Exclusive rights to grow in washingston expires 2028 though., march 2027 being the more precise date. I thought it was grown n other parts of the world like europe and south america.

Cosmic Crisp - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The article on the bottom explains some other honeycrisp crosses. Sweettango is crossed with zestar. Ripen in late august. Might not be that atrractive deer wise atleast. Cosmic looks like late september early october pretty much inline with red delicious. These dates might be premature. Often orchards want them a little aldente so they stay in storage longer.

I would be interested in a cross between some of these with dolgo, chestnut, kerr, or even hewes. Good taste good storage but deer bite sized. Maybe some of the crosses would make them drop slowly over the season versus alot of all winter zombie fruit.

 

[wooduck]

So how does triumph stack up against supersnap? Think you probably have some fruit off triumph by now for a bit of an opinion. One I planted for a friend is a number of yrs from fruit production. He or really his wife are always asking about growing the latest hot topic apples from the supermarket but don't think about the zero care for apples that happens at their hunting property. So "honeycrisp like" with zero spraying program is the elusive goal for any new plantings I help them with

We do have Triumph fruiting and like the apple very good quality and i will say very little fungal problems on fruit or the trees themselves ,, The problem is all the honeycrisp based crosses coming at the industry ,, There are probably close to twenty released in the last 10 years industry wide and its seems to be turning into a flood ,,, We planted Kudos from the Uof M same breeding as Sweetango but certainly a different genetic mix , We have also delved into releases from the MAIA group and really like the Sweet MAIA they released a couple years ago ,, Years ago we planted wolf rivers noticed they are still on the trees the ones we did not harvest so late hang as far as size i have never seen a frozen apple a deer couldn't handle ,, We dump some apples out mid dec that dont sell or wont press for cider went by there last week found a shed antler already 5 on a side pretty biggin next year i think. Was out a trade show recently and tasted an apple call scruffy , we are looking into it

 

[Bowsnbucks]

honeycrisp x enterprise will be off patent soon too.

One that caght my eye was big deer from SLN. Good crabapple found from planting 100 sweetango seeds.

What's the name of the Honeycrisp x Enterprise cross??

EDIT: I just clicked on the link about "Cosmic Crisp" apple in bigboreblr's post------ and saw that it answered my question above in this same post. DOH!!