New blank canvas farm tour in Northern MO
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Hoytvectrix
5 year old buck +
I wasn't planning on drilling the switch in and was planning on frost seeding. My thought was ease of spreading this winter and also I was hoping to get it up as soon as possible next year. The other benefit is the in-field cold stratification this winter (although it sounds like this is less of a concern with RC Big Rock). Would you still advocate for late spring drilling over frost seeding?
Brian662
5 year old buck +
The biggest advantage to the RC line is that they don't need to be cold stratified. The biggest benefit of that is the ability to kill the first or second flush of weed/grass growth in April/May before seeding.
I have had luck broadcasting seed (not frost seeding) onto bare soil in May. I prefer moist soil and day after a rain and then cultipacking the seed to press it into the soil. Spray simazine or atrazine and let it go, will be 6-8' in the second year without issue doing this method.
MN Slick
5 year old buck +
Check out the Switchgrass post on Iowawhitetail https://iowawhitetail.com/community/forums/dbltrees-habitat-corner.45/. Iowabowunter1983 has been doing it will great success and advocates for Duracor herbicide as well. He has a video of August planting RC that looks incredible. I think Higgins is waiting until soil temps up now as well and is drilling it in. I would do it for sure since you have a drill. My frost seeding attemps have failed down there.
Hoytvectrix
5 year old buck +
Reposting this here from another thread just to have it all in one place.
This is a hunt I had on November 10th at my new(ish) farm in northern MO. This is a buck we had very little history of since we bought the farm last year. Just a couple of trail camera photos/videos in 2023. I did film him being an opportunistic satellite buck watching another bigger buck with a doe during the firearm season last year. I very briefly thought about taking him but was waiting on the buck with the doe that year and I never got a shot at the bigger one or any other mature bucks that year in archery or firearm seasons.
We have a great ridgetop plot that is a saddle between two ravines of cover on this farm. It hunts very well if we can access it cleanly and have any kind of wind out of the west (dominant wind for our area). This was kind of a random encounter, and I honestly had no idea what I would see in my first sit at this plot in the morning. I only found the trail cam photos and videos of him after the hunt, so I was initially second-guessing which buck this was.
As you can tell from the footage, the shot was pretty far back. I would love to blame it on my first shot at a deer from the saddle, or I only had a tight shooting window, but I really have no excuse for the mediocre at best shot. It ended up being a pure liver hit, with no other organs touched. We bumped him when blood tracking about 4 hours after the shot. He was very slowly heading toward the middle of the farm and downhill, so we backed out. I took up the trail in the morning and before I even started, I heard crows down in the creek at dawn. I went straight there and found him laying half in the creek. He had walked about 600 yards in total. I backtracked and found almost no blood from where we bumped him. I was going to check the creek anyways, but I had about 10 different things go right for this hunt, so I am very grateful.
This is a hunt I had on November 10th at my new(ish) farm in northern MO. This is a buck we had very little history of since we bought the farm last year. Just a couple of trail camera photos/videos in 2023. I did film him being an opportunistic satellite buck watching another bigger buck with a doe during the firearm season last year. I very briefly thought about taking him but was waiting on the buck with the doe that year and I never got a shot at the bigger one or any other mature bucks that year in archery or firearm seasons.
We have a great ridgetop plot that is a saddle between two ravines of cover on this farm. It hunts very well if we can access it cleanly and have any kind of wind out of the west (dominant wind for our area). This was kind of a random encounter, and I honestly had no idea what I would see in my first sit at this plot in the morning. I only found the trail cam photos and videos of him after the hunt, so I was initially second-guessing which buck this was.
As you can tell from the footage, the shot was pretty far back. I would love to blame it on my first shot at a deer from the saddle, or I only had a tight shooting window, but I really have no excuse for the mediocre at best shot. It ended up being a pure liver hit, with no other organs touched. We bumped him when blood tracking about 4 hours after the shot. He was very slowly heading toward the middle of the farm and downhill, so we backed out. I took up the trail in the morning and before I even started, I heard crows down in the creek at dawn. I went straight there and found him laying half in the creek. He had walked about 600 yards in total. I backtracked and found almost no blood from where we bumped him. I was going to check the creek anyways, but I had about 10 different things go right for this hunt, so I am very grateful.
Hoytvectrix
5 year old buck +
I have been squirreling away seeds this fall/winter for the intention of planting things on the new Farm. Some of these will be started in a container this winter under grow lights, and others will be direct seeded this winter or early spring.
Here is a list of the seeds purchased/collected:
Chestnuts (I have tried to focus on either Mizzou recommended varieties, or those that are late dropping):
* ‘Dunstan’ (C) from Chestnut Ridge of Pike County (50)
* ‘Colossal’ (JxE) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘Layeroka’ (CxE) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘Silverleaf’ (J) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘Maraval’ (ExJ) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘AU Homestead’ (C) chestnut from UMCA (25)
* ‘Qing’ (C) chestnut from UMCA (25)
* ‘Qing’ (C) chestnut from A Perfect Circle (25)
* Ozark chinquapin chestnut from A Perfect Circle (15)
* Allegheny chinkapin chestnut from Route 9 Cooperative (50)
* Empire collection (C) chestnuts from Route 9 Cooperative (25)
Hazelnuts:
* ‘Jefferson’ hazelnut from Burnt Ridge (100)
* ‘McDonald’ hazelnut from Burnt Ridge (100)
* ‘Yamhill’ hazelnut from Burnt Ridge (100)
* Assorted hazelnuts from UMN Breeding program (120)
* Wild American hazelnuts from MO and MN (200)
Oaks:
* Swamp white, White, English, Chinkapin, and red oak acorns (150)
Early succession prairie (This is seed that I collected in the fall and early winter of this year that will be planted as part of returning a pasture to a prairie):
* Butterfly weed
* Swamp milkweed
* Common milkweed
* Purple prairie clover
* Purple/yellow/orange coneflower
* Roughleaf dogwood
* Gray dogwood
* Smooth sumac
* Sideoats grama
* Little bluestem
* Big bluestem
* Indiangrass
Here is a list of the seeds purchased/collected:
Chestnuts (I have tried to focus on either Mizzou recommended varieties, or those that are late dropping):
* ‘Dunstan’ (C) from Chestnut Ridge of Pike County (50)
* ‘Colossal’ (JxE) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘Layeroka’ (CxE) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘Silverleaf’ (J) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘Maraval’ (ExJ) from Burnt Ridge (25)
* ‘AU Homestead’ (C) chestnut from UMCA (25)
* ‘Qing’ (C) chestnut from UMCA (25)
* ‘Qing’ (C) chestnut from A Perfect Circle (25)
* Ozark chinquapin chestnut from A Perfect Circle (15)
* Allegheny chinkapin chestnut from Route 9 Cooperative (50)
* Empire collection (C) chestnuts from Route 9 Cooperative (25)
Hazelnuts:
* ‘Jefferson’ hazelnut from Burnt Ridge (100)
* ‘McDonald’ hazelnut from Burnt Ridge (100)
* ‘Yamhill’ hazelnut from Burnt Ridge (100)
* Assorted hazelnuts from UMN Breeding program (120)
* Wild American hazelnuts from MO and MN (200)
Oaks:
* Swamp white, White, English, Chinkapin, and red oak acorns (150)
Early succession prairie (This is seed that I collected in the fall and early winter of this year that will be planted as part of returning a pasture to a prairie):
* Butterfly weed
* Swamp milkweed
* Common milkweed
* Purple prairie clover
* Purple/yellow/orange coneflower
* Roughleaf dogwood
* Gray dogwood
* Smooth sumac
* Sideoats grama
* Little bluestem
* Big bluestem
* Indiangrass
