Four Seasons
5 year old buck +
If you let 300 inch bloodlines out of your pen and into the wild for years you could be an amazing hunter also...So rumor has it.
JBird is famous!
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j-bird
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Dipper -I have roughly 15 acres of CRP but it's all spread out as timber/ag field buffer. The greatest I can make mine is 120' wide (and still be paid for it). It still has helped -and improving it with tall NWSG has really helped. It has increased the cover (lowest hole in my bucket) so the deer feel safer and I know the does are bedding in it as well.
Mo - Not going to post it here. I will send it to anyone who asks. Posting it would feel like self-promotion to me and I just don't care to do that. Sharing pics and stories to help someone or add a different perspective is one thing - but it just feels like tooting my own horn and I don't want to become the next "insert the name of your favorite dark side prick here". The world has enough ass-holes.
Phil - I'll send you a PM.
Those of you that did get the article (one way or another) please use it to try to motive others - even if you have to remove it from QW or whatever - that was my motivation behind the article, please help me with that intent. Use the - "See! If this idiot can do it so can you!" approach if needed - I couldn't find my butt with both hands and a flashlight when I started, but the information and suppot is out there and some help, some work and realistic expectaions can go a long way.
Thanks everyone for the positive words.
Mo - Not going to post it here. I will send it to anyone who asks. Posting it would feel like self-promotion to me and I just don't care to do that. Sharing pics and stories to help someone or add a different perspective is one thing - but it just feels like tooting my own horn and I don't want to become the next "insert the name of your favorite dark side prick here". The world has enough ass-holes.
Phil - I'll send you a PM.
Those of you that did get the article (one way or another) please use it to try to motive others - even if you have to remove it from QW or whatever - that was my motivation behind the article, please help me with that intent. Use the - "See! If this idiot can do it so can you!" approach if needed - I couldn't find my butt with both hands and a flashlight when I started, but the information and suppot is out there and some help, some work and realistic expectaions can go a long way.
Thanks everyone for the positive words.
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MoBuckChaser
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Posting the work you do on your farm is what makes this site work.
I must be missing something?
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dipper
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In 1996, my wife and I moved to a 170-acre Indiana farm, and I began to
deer hunt the property in 2000. A couple years before that, on nearby land, my wife’s grandfather had found an awesome set
of sheds with forked brow tines and G2s and G3s that are at least 10 inches on both beams. So, I had high hopes.
The land included about 120 acres of corn and soybean fields, 15 acres of pas- ture, and the rest in small blocks and nar- row strips of timber. I figured I should be covered up with deer. Boy, was I wrong. It was a good day to see a single deer. Every acre was farmed that could be to maximize financial returns, and the timber lacked any significant understory.
I was not seeing any bucks on our farm like the one that dropped those sheds. All the bucks I shot were small ones. I know now it was because they were young, but I didn’t know any better then.
It was around 2005 that I had the opportunity to improve the habitat for wildlife, so I contacted my local NRCS office. We enrolled our field edges in two different CRP programs, thus buffer-
ing the timber and crop fields. My goal was to improve the habitat and increase cover while not sacrificing the financial returns of the property. This left pockets and corners around the CRP where farm- ing was impractical. These areas became food plots. The CRP areas began produc- ing what the property needed most: cover. We also designated sanctuary areas and focused on spreading out hunting pres-
Jason Weisenbach (right), his son Thomas (left), and long-time friend Brian Lasure show off bucks killed since 2008 on Jason’s 170-acre Indiana farm. Before becoming a QDMA member in 2007 and starting to protect yearling bucks, Jason saw few deer and only young bucks (below). Photos by Jason’s daughter, Jenna.
sure. As the amount of cover increased along with fall and winter forage, we start- ed seeing more and better deer. In fact, we started harvesting multiple deer off the farm and continue to do so each season.
My deer hunting world changed in 2008. That was the year I harvested a 31⁄2-year-old buck. This was the first “nota- ble” buck off the property, and he triggered that “Ah ha” moment! I started thinking about buck age, and we started protecting yearling bucks, making exceptions only for rookie hunters.
In 2010 we arranged a selective tim- ber harvest to remove low-value trees, to release mast-producing trees, and to put more sunlight on the ground and improve the understory. We cut ash, hickory, syca- more, hackberry, cottonwood, maple and poplar, leaving the oak, walnut and cherry. I made some money off the timber, and the understory exploded in the pockets of new sunlight. I also started planting a few apple trees and experimented with hinge
cutting. In 2013, I started converting some of the CRP into native warm-season grass- es to increase the cover value. The more we improved the habitat, the more our deer hunting improved.
Further habitat improvements coin- cided with more quality bucks being seen and harvested. We now see at least one really nice buck in person or on trail-cam- era every year. We also frequently see does with twin fawns.
We may never harvest a Boone & Crockett off of the property, but we are very pleased with our progress, and when people ask if QDM can work on a small property, I say, “Yes, yes it can!” The most important things are keeping your expec- tations reasonable, embracing your limi- tations and keeping in mind that Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I hope I can continue to do the work I do and share my love of the environment and hunting with my friends and family. Two of my most memorable hunts have nothing to do with trophies. I was right next to my son and another young mem- ber of my wife’s family when they harvest- ed their first deer. I remember those hunts like they happened yesterday. Hopefully I can have a few more of those moments.
When you consider QDM success, remember where you started, recall the limitations and struggles along the way, and remember QDM isn’t a destination but a journey. Share your QDM story, and it will encourage others
planting a few apple trees and experimented with hinge
cutting. In 2013, I started converting some of the CRP into native warm-season grass- es to increase the cover value. The more we improved the habitat, the more our deer hunting improved.
Further habitat improvements coin- cided with more quality bucks being seen and harvested. We now see at least one really nice buck in person or on trail-cam- era every year. We also frequently see does with twin fawns.
We may never harvest a Boone & Crockett off of the property, but we are very pleased with our progress, and when people ask if QDM can work on a small property, I say, “Yes, yes it can!” The most important things are keeping your expec- tations reasonable, embracing your limi- tations and keeping in mind that Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I hope I can continue to do the work I do and share my love of the environment and hunting with my friends and family. Two of my most memorable hunts have nothing to do with trophies. I was right next to my son and another young mem- ber of my wife’s family when they harvest- ed their first deer. I remember those hunts like they happened yesterday. Hopefully I can have a few more of those moments.
When you consider QDM success, remember where you started, recall the limitations and struggles along the way, and remember QDM isn’t a destination but a journey. Share your QDM story, and it will encourage others.
deer hunt the property in 2000. A couple years before that, on nearby land, my wife’s grandfather had found an awesome set
of sheds with forked brow tines and G2s and G3s that are at least 10 inches on both beams. So, I had high hopes.
The land included about 120 acres of corn and soybean fields, 15 acres of pas- ture, and the rest in small blocks and nar- row strips of timber. I figured I should be covered up with deer. Boy, was I wrong. It was a good day to see a single deer. Every acre was farmed that could be to maximize financial returns, and the timber lacked any significant understory.
I was not seeing any bucks on our farm like the one that dropped those sheds. All the bucks I shot were small ones. I know now it was because they were young, but I didn’t know any better then.
It was around 2005 that I had the opportunity to improve the habitat for wildlife, so I contacted my local NRCS office. We enrolled our field edges in two different CRP programs, thus buffer-
ing the timber and crop fields. My goal was to improve the habitat and increase cover while not sacrificing the financial returns of the property. This left pockets and corners around the CRP where farm- ing was impractical. These areas became food plots. The CRP areas began produc- ing what the property needed most: cover. We also designated sanctuary areas and focused on spreading out hunting pres-
Jason Weisenbach (right), his son Thomas (left), and long-time friend Brian Lasure show off bucks killed since 2008 on Jason’s 170-acre Indiana farm. Before becoming a QDMA member in 2007 and starting to protect yearling bucks, Jason saw few deer and only young bucks (below). Photos by Jason’s daughter, Jenna.
sure. As the amount of cover increased along with fall and winter forage, we start- ed seeing more and better deer. In fact, we started harvesting multiple deer off the farm and continue to do so each season.
My deer hunting world changed in 2008. That was the year I harvested a 31⁄2-year-old buck. This was the first “nota- ble” buck off the property, and he triggered that “Ah ha” moment! I started thinking about buck age, and we started protecting yearling bucks, making exceptions only for rookie hunters.
In 2010 we arranged a selective tim- ber harvest to remove low-value trees, to release mast-producing trees, and to put more sunlight on the ground and improve the understory. We cut ash, hickory, syca- more, hackberry, cottonwood, maple and poplar, leaving the oak, walnut and cherry. I made some money off the timber, and the understory exploded in the pockets of new sunlight. I also started planting a few apple trees and experimented with hinge
cutting. In 2013, I started converting some of the CRP into native warm-season grass- es to increase the cover value. The more we improved the habitat, the more our deer hunting improved.
Further habitat improvements coin- cided with more quality bucks being seen and harvested. We now see at least one really nice buck in person or on trail-cam- era every year. We also frequently see does with twin fawns.
We may never harvest a Boone & Crockett off of the property, but we are very pleased with our progress, and when people ask if QDM can work on a small property, I say, “Yes, yes it can!” The most important things are keeping your expec- tations reasonable, embracing your limi- tations and keeping in mind that Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I hope I can continue to do the work I do and share my love of the environment and hunting with my friends and family. Two of my most memorable hunts have nothing to do with trophies. I was right next to my son and another young mem- ber of my wife’s family when they harvest- ed their first deer. I remember those hunts like they happened yesterday. Hopefully I can have a few more of those moments.
When you consider QDM success, remember where you started, recall the limitations and struggles along the way, and remember QDM isn’t a destination but a journey. Share your QDM story, and it will encourage others
planting a few apple trees and experimented with hinge
cutting. In 2013, I started converting some of the CRP into native warm-season grass- es to increase the cover value. The more we improved the habitat, the more our deer hunting improved.
Further habitat improvements coin- cided with more quality bucks being seen and harvested. We now see at least one really nice buck in person or on trail-cam- era every year. We also frequently see does with twin fawns.
We may never harvest a Boone & Crockett off of the property, but we are very pleased with our progress, and when people ask if QDM can work on a small property, I say, “Yes, yes it can!” The most important things are keeping your expec- tations reasonable, embracing your limi- tations and keeping in mind that Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I hope I can continue to do the work I do and share my love of the environment and hunting with my friends and family. Two of my most memorable hunts have nothing to do with trophies. I was right next to my son and another young mem- ber of my wife’s family when they harvest- ed their first deer. I remember those hunts like they happened yesterday. Hopefully I can have a few more of those moments.
When you consider QDM success, remember where you started, recall the limitations and struggles along the way, and remember QDM isn’t a destination but a journey. Share your QDM story, and it will encourage others.
Jordan Selsor
5 year old buck +
haha gotta watch this bunch eh
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MoBuckChaser
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Hahahahahaha!
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dipper
Guest
What did I do wrong, seriously?
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dipper
Guest
Jbird doesn't want to self promote, that's admirable, I thought it was a nice write up?
Tree Spud
5 year old buck +
As long as it was asked ...
You possibly "Burked It" ... Just like the losing candidate for Wisconsin Governor ... Mary Burke ... publishing an article, in whole or part, without giving credit to the authors or citing sources ... reproducing and/or distributing the works of others (Jason w, QDMA, etc) possibly without their permission
That is a no no under copyright law ...
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j-bird
Moderator
I wasn't even thinking about the "legal" issues. I thought it was funny how I was trying to explain to Mo why I wouldn't post it and then you turn around and post it. Sort of like saying, you don't want to - fine I will. That then got my reply of not being responsible for your actions as I was not in any way aware that you would do that. Then Mo - of all people "like" the post which I think was more out of spite as I think he saw it the same way based on his response to my post about not encouraging you. Overall it just struck me as funny. Sounds like some of the stuff I put up with when dealing with my kids. I say "no" and one does it anyway with the other playing cheerleader. Maybe not everyone saw it that way, but I did. I am not upset in anyway - nothing to be upset about. All in good fun from my perspective.
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dipper
Guest
Haha, the copyright police haven't showed up at my door yet. At least walker enacted the castle doctrine, if they do come.
I liked the article and others will too, so why not satisfy the urge. You can't talk about something like this and not let everyone know what it is, that's inhumane.
I liked the article and others will too, so why not satisfy the urge. You can't talk about something like this and not let everyone know what it is, that's inhumane.
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MoBuckChaser
Guest
Not out of spite, I liked the post!
Everyone on here likes to read about others habitat projects and there successes. As I said, that is what this site is all about! Unless your in this for huge financial gains, what is the problem? When I said I think you should post on here, you should post any and all new projects so others can learn. If you don't want to post.....then don't!
You don't have to explain anything to me, I already figured that unlike Penthouse, most on here want to read AND look at pictures on this site!;)
j-bird
Moderator
We are cool - it just took a funny turn from my perspective.
Since Dipper already posted the verbage - here is the entire article (nov/dec 2014 issue of Quality Whitetails pg 20).
What good is porn without pictures!
Now I can take the heat of being a self-promoter just like the rest of "the dark side" pricks!!!!
Autographed copies available for $24.95 + shipping and handlling - contact me for my seminar series and book "I'm a deer hunting GOD - you wish you was me" for dates,prices and availability.
That's funny right here!!!!!!!
Since Dipper already posted the verbage - here is the entire article (nov/dec 2014 issue of Quality Whitetails pg 20).
What good is porn without pictures!
Now I can take the heat of being a self-promoter just like the rest of "the dark side" pricks!!!!
Autographed copies available for $24.95 + shipping and handlling - contact me for my seminar series and book "I'm a deer hunting GOD - you wish you was me" for dates,prices and availability.
That's funny right here!!!!!!!
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MoBuckChaser
Guest
Finally someone on here with a sense of fricken Humor!
foggy
5 year old buck +
Don't worry Jason.....its all good. I just don't look at the logo on the page and everything is fine. ;) Nice article! You should be proud. ;)
(But it doesn't change the fact that the QDMA is not active in North Central MN and they still claim they have a branch here, despite it never being operational for over 5 years.)
(But it doesn't change the fact that the QDMA is not active in North Central MN and they still claim they have a branch here, despite it never being operational for over 5 years.)
