NY has lost it’s mind and it’s getting closer to me hitting F’it and only working 1 more year and moving away from all this. The Safe Act is only getting more devastating to us gun owners! It’s madness!
People don’t understand because you aren’t here living in the cesspool. Last summer I won a $600 Turkey gun in a local gun club raffle. I own lots of guns, the State knows I own a lot of guns, I’ve bought many new guns here and never had a problem. The only time I’ve been arrested was for getting into a fight when I was 22 years old, I was charged with disorderly conduct because the other guy didn’t want to press charges, which is comparable to a noise violation. So I’m clean, no DWI’s, no domestic disputes, no drug charges, I’m clean.
So I fill out the background check and he submits it, it goes 30 days and “times out with no response”. I told the gun shop owner to give me the gun, I did my part. He said he would resubmit it. Again it goes 30 days and “times out with no response” and he has the sac to tell me he won’t risk his license so he has to give cash value of the gun
I don’t need the gun, but wanted it and at that point it’s about principle.
I’ve stewed on this for a few months now and since then we now have to pass a background check to buy ammo
(see how they do it?) Last week I went to my County Clerks office to get some answers. VERY nice old lady is our Clerk, very sympathetic to my situation but has never heard of this happening. She made 3 calls in front of me, each one going higher up the Chain and all had no idea what I can do about it. She suggests I apply for a pistol permit so she can see what happens on her end and get me an answer. Which BTW if you want to buy a semiautomatic ANYTHING you NOW need a permit and the process is the same as a pistol permit. Professional photo, fingerprints at certain places, background check etc. The laws around pistol permits in NY are very restrictive. I dont want one, I mean I do, but don’t want the bull
that goes with it so I’ve never bothered.
As a law abiding citizen my whole life, I can’t even buy a gun or ammo here anymore. That’s how screwed we are. I’ll state the obvious here, NONE of these laws stop criminals from getting guns. In fact when filling out the BG check, on the form it asks 3 different questions regarding illegal aliens status. I asked him about it and he said he’s sold several guns to different illegals, legally. How TF does someone from another country, possibly another continent, pass a BG check but I don’t even get a response?
Another example, a friend had issues with the mother of his children, he has custody. She would call CPS for kicks just to be a pain. CPS shows up with police every time so one officer saw a gun leaning against the wall in his bedroom, it was Deer season after all, it was NOT “secured in a safe” so he got a Felony for that. Since he saw the gun he had the legal right to search further. He found a 10 round magazine (I think) and we are only allowed max 7 round clip. He also found 2 AR’s that “weren’t NY compliant”. One had an illegal stock and I forget what the other was but he got 4 felonies that day! Kids were removed and temporarily sent to the mothers. In the end, the Family Court Judge moved permanent custody to the mother. The mother has no job, lives on the States dime 100%, been caught with a meth lab and was arrested for selling cocaine several times. This is why the father got custody to begin with amongst other things like child endangerment for driving drunk with the kids in the car. That is what a corrupt government looks like, it’s outright tyrannical!!
There are so many things I can tell you about NY that parallel the above like the law Holcum recently pushed through the courts. Because of the Covid bio weapon, if you are sick, the State can come into your house and drag you away to quarantine you! No BS, and I’ve seen videos of this happening although I don’t personally know anyone they have done this to yet.
Anyway, my Father recently passed away, it’s been a rough time dealing with everything but it’s all settled and between that and my assets I have an enough to start moving this plan along. I was trying to make it 25 years working for the State but I’ll be happy getting 20 and keeping my sanity so I only have a year left to plan this.
All good responses so thank you for that! I don’t mind snow, I don’t have to stay close to NY but since I can go anywhere, it’s got to have good deer management and good bucks. I’ve shot a lot of good bucks but never a Booner, never even seen one on the hoof, and I’d really like to.
Reading back through this thread there are some good options so thank you for that! Hoping some others will add more input.
Thank you for listening to that long ass rant! But more need to realize how bad things have gotten, and it’s not just here but if it can happen here…
everything is awkward and it’s not an environment conducive to my personality, I was raised with manners so everyone is sir or ma’am and struggle to keep my mouth shut so that’s a ticking time bomb
these people are morally and ethically ruined, they aren’t coming back. The drug deaths have tripled in my area and theft in general is just the new normal I guess, we have a homeless camp that went from a handful 10 years ago to over 60 today checking into the shelters. “Migrants” is a whole other f’d up topic and I’ve rambled too long already hahaa but from my perspective, it HAS to be intentional. You can’t turn a whole state into a shithole this fast without it being the goal all along. I simply can’t fathom they are just that incompetent. 
