Checked another hive today that I had seen bees going in and out of this spring. I noticed they were not bringing any pollen into the hive which is typically never a good sign this time of year. Not alot of bees when I opened it up today, the hive was booming as we went into winter last fall. Plenty of honey stores still remaining, but no queen, and the workers had started laying eggs. I will let them meet their demise at least they are busy pollinating, inadvertently right now. Pretty sure they hadnt swarmed plenty of room, no empty queen cells and the weather hasnt been very conducive to that either. I think I have pretty well resigned myself to just buying as many packages as I want (can afford) to each Spring. I dont have the time or willingness to invest more in trying to get them through the winter at this time in my life, maybe someday if I ever retire I will try to get more out of a hive.