There has been an interesting discussion on lever-action rifles in the "small tools" section below. Kinda like the looks of that new Mossburg lever action rifle. The short carbine, with an adjustable butt-stock looks ideal for a growing kid. The 30-30 would not be too recoil intensive either....and plenty power and accuracy out to 200 yards or so on deer-sized critters. Modern safety and other good features too. I'd consider it for JR. :)
There has been an interesting discussion on lever-action rifles in the "small tools" section below. Kinda like the looks of that new Mossburg lever action rifle. The short carbine, with an adjustable butt-stock looks ideal for a growing kid. The 30-30 would not be too recoil intensive either....and plenty power and accuracy out to 200 yards or so on deer-sized critters. Modern safety and other good features too. I'd consider it for JR. :)
Lots of things to consider. Shooters experience, types of game other than deer you might want to hunt with that gun, physical stature of the hunter, ammo availability, and adjustability of the firearm. Congratulations to your son! And to you for gaining a new hunting companion.
.243 is a great youth gun. My brother and I both started out with it and shot many a deer with it. My son will use it when he is old enough. Very accurate and low recoil.
Thanks Gwm!!7mm-08 would be another to consider.
thats what i would recommend.7mm-08 would be another to consider.
Exciting new phase in hunting for Dad and Son. Hands down .243 bolt/scoped/ No recoil, great distance killing power. A guy could hunt everything in North America except Griz with a .22, .243, .308 and a scattergun.
thats what i would recommend.
My boys shot the 243 and its a great gun, but the 7mm-08 has better bullet selection and larger gr options to shoot.
The larger round options would be possibly more forgiving for a beginner. I know shot placement is most important, but
the 243 sometimes didnt leave any bloodtrail at all.
They are both great guns, and they killed a lot of deer with the 243, just sometimes had to look for it without much blood.
I know lots of folks like their 243 caliber guns for youth deer hunters. I gotta go against the grain here.....and I'm sure some folks will take exception to this.....but I just cannot get enthused about those small bullets (both diameter and weight). 100 grains does not make a good deep woods bullet IMO.....especially if the marksmanship is not up to high ideals. Also, can get a small wound channel if the bullets don't expand well. Not much energy at the longer ranges. I think a young shooter would get more game with a good 'ole 30-30 and I'd think the recoil is comparable. No?
I consider the 243 a better gun for an accomplished marksman. Just my .02 cents. (OK.....ban me ;))
PS My grandsons both shoot a 7mm-08. but they are a few years older now. Some kids would be adverse to the recoil?
I like the H&R youth model single shot and it also had a 22 barrel and a 20ga barrel that came with it.Thanks Huntall! What manufacture/model would you suggest for either caliber?
I know lots of folks like their 243 caliber guns for youth deer hunters. I gotta go against the grain here.....and I'm sure some folks will take exception to this.....but I just cannot get enthused about those small bullets (both diameter and weight). 100 grains does not make a good deep woods bullet IMO.....especially if the marksmanship is not up to high ideals. Also, can get a small wound channel if the bullets don't expand well. Not much energy at the longer ranges. I think a young shooter would get more game with a good 'ole 30-30 and I'd think the recoil is comparable. No?
I consider the 243 a better gun for an accomplished marksman. Just my .02 cents. (OK.....ban me ;))
PS My grandsons both shoot a 7mm-08. but they are a few years older now. Some kids would be adverse to the recoil?