5 year old buck +
:eek: My buddy shot this vid with his phone while bow hunting public land down by the current river in Mo. I have seen what bears have done to some of y'alls trees and Im not excited to see their population growing in Mo.
They seem to be working their way up from south to north. We always have a couple confirmed bear sightings just 30 miles south of st louis. The area I hunt is BIG BIG ozark timber type woods and I have never seen a bear track and hope I dont! I am on the same page as you with the SSS!What is there current range in MO? I am sorry I would be a SSS man, though that is a rather large hole to dig.
Seems like in big woods country is where they thrive. One would think I would being seeing some sign of them between mine an my dads place if they were plentiful. I would imagine that their will be bear season in Mo in my life time. Plenty of habitat for them an they are protected. They will increase their pop sooner than laterBears don't need big woods, they do have large home ranges.
Bear season would be nice, I have been thinking of a bear hunt for a couple years now.Seems like in big woods country is where they thrive. One would think I would being seeing some sign of them between mine an my dads place if they were plentiful. I would imagine that their will be bear season in Mo in my life time. Plenty of habitat for them an they are protected. They will increase their pop sooner than later
The farm I used to live on would routinely have several acres of corn get flattened....all from one bear. When I lived in town I once had a 300 lb sow with 3 cubs punch a hole through the garage door...because that is where i stored garbage. I stored garbage in the garage because you cant store it outside or the bears will spread it all around your yard...and your neighbors' yards. Our dumpster at the office largely does not have any food in it. Occassionly we would have some employees garbage from lunch. But it wouldn't be enough to fill one small garbage bag. Yet the bears would climb into the the 30 yd roll off and throw all the other waste material out so they could get to those few pieces of food related garbage! 2 summers ago we had 9 different bears coming to our dumpster...and we are in the middle of town! PGC came and trapped 5 different bears out of the dumpster in 7 days. My town is more or less surrounded by public land, State Game Lands and State Forest Land....the PGC releases trapped nuisance bears from other areas on these lands. Of the 5 bears that the PGC trapped out of our dumpster only one had 1 tag. All the rest had 2 ear tags each and lip tattoos...repeat offenders.Besides a bear flattening a rotten fence I've never had a problem. Never had any damage to apples yet. I've only noticed one time where a bear flattened an area of corn. A half a drop in the bucket compared to what damage the deer do.
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I live in one of the least densely populated counties in the state and we have lots of public land. The PGC relocates nuisance bears from more populated areas into my area. These bears will travel huge distances from their release sites. The WCO who did all the trapping at our dumpster ran the tag/tattoo numbers of the bears through their data base to find out there history. Only one of the bears was a "local" bear and he was caught the previous year about 20 miles to the west and was relocated to a nearby game lands. The other bears had initial captures in some cases as far away as 70 miles. Some of the second and third captures were located even further away, and their release areas were not in my area. So the 3rd and 4th time they were captured they were 30 -50 miles from where they were released the second or third times. Every year there are tagged bears killed in bear season that were tagged 3-4 counties away. These relocated bears tend to roam alot....and alot of them end up back in the same areas as where they were initially caught.
bears are highly regulated in PA. PGC will not dispatch a nuisance bear until it is deemed a danger to humans or has caused significant damage to livestock. But if it is just dumpster diving and raiding bird feeders in people's yards they tell the residences to store their garbage indoors and take down there bird feeders until the bears go into hibernation....thats just "life" in bear country.
I know we are kind of drifting away from Jordan's original post, sorry Jordan! :D I do find this bear thing interesting. So how is a bear that routinely wanders among people not automatically "deemed a danger to humans"? Actually maybe this is just another example of a state's game commission run amuck. (I do have a customer who is a retired PA Game Commission employee that comes here to hunt deer that states thats why he hunts here for deer!) Here in Nebraska if a mounain lion is found within city limits it is euthanized on the spot.