Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
What's the info on that bronze ceracote barrel finish?? New to me - I don't read a lot of rifle specs / catalogs. Great looking gun you have Roy!!
25-06 thoughts?
- Thread starter roymunson
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gary.slayton.7
Buck Fawn
I know you already went with a 243, but, I’m a 25 caliber to the core! I’ve got a 25-06 that I love dearly and just ordered a 25-06 AI barrel for it, also have a 257 AI (almost 25-06 velocity) that I love. A 115 grain nosler ballistic tip leaving the barrel at close to 3,000 FPS won’t let many whitetails out of their tracks!
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Jordan Selsor
5 year old buck +
Those cascades have caught my eye! Triggers are sure sweet on them!
Good luck on your muley hunt. Always been a dream on mine to kill a nice muley.
roymunson
5 year old buck +
She's a good girl.
I have the same gun in a plain jane black stock 350 legend. Thats what my 9 year old used to kill his deer last week.
I like the 243 a lot. Not sure how they shoot incomparison, but i saw a ceracote Weatherby Vanguard at the gun shop. Was a really cool looking gun, and I'd love that gun. But i'm not sure how it compares shooting wise.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Went to pick up a cascade for a backup rifle for friends and my dad to use (he has only ever hunted in shotgun zones and doesnt own a deer rifle). They are nice rifles but the action was just a little gummy for my tastes. Might have cleaned up with some lube or cleaning off packing grease? Anyway, they had a tikka in the same cartridge for $70 more and that's what came home with me. Doesn't have cerakote or muzzle threads but hard to beat the action/trigger/reliability of a tikka.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Only reason I'd consider the rem is if you want a .50 cal. The only reason I could see going .50 is if you plan to hunt elk in states that require a .50 and there's usually better component availability. My .45 ML beats me up enough.
Either way you'll probably want to add an arrowhead breach plug upgrade. I just did the whole arrowhead smokeless encore conversion instead and I've very happy with how it performs. It shoots the 275 grain XLD bullets very accurately at 2570 FPS.
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
I've owned most of the calibers listed above at one time or another. For a pronghorn hunt I once bought a Savage bolt action in 25-06 shortly after the accu trigger was introduced. Gun is a heavy barrel affair with a low cost molded stock. It's got a heavy varmint long barrel (26").....and must weigh 12 lbs plus the scope. Savage generally makes good barrels. It's got a 4x14x50mm Leopold scope.
Trajectory is quite flat by most standards...and I use a 200 yard zero. Barely any recoil. Not a great carry gun, and it's not well balanced.....but I used it to kill a nice antelope for a TV show at one time. This was an inexpensive gun at the time. But most savage rifles are quite accurate IME.....and I was taken by the accutrigger at the time. (Most rifle companies now offer a better trigger than they did at that point in time.)
Now I frequently use it in box blinds.....kinda like a bean field rifle.....and it drops whitetails like lightning. I suppose I have used it on a dozen whitetail kills and I cannot remember an animal taking a step upon being shot. (I like the high off-shoulder shot). The heavy barrel allows the sights to settle in an instant. For a factory cartridge the ballistics and bullet choices are pretty good. I dont recall ever handloading for this gun tho I have dies and brass for it.....it does not get shot very often....and it holds it's groups year after year. I've got a few prettier guns and guns that are nice to carry and handle.....but for me, that 25-06 Savage "beast" is a reliable, long range shooter. Just don't buy one like it to carry in the mountains.....Ask me how I know.
Trajectory is quite flat by most standards...and I use a 200 yard zero. Barely any recoil. Not a great carry gun, and it's not well balanced.....but I used it to kill a nice antelope for a TV show at one time. This was an inexpensive gun at the time. But most savage rifles are quite accurate IME.....and I was taken by the accutrigger at the time. (Most rifle companies now offer a better trigger than they did at that point in time.)
Now I frequently use it in box blinds.....kinda like a bean field rifle.....and it drops whitetails like lightning. I suppose I have used it on a dozen whitetail kills and I cannot remember an animal taking a step upon being shot. (I like the high off-shoulder shot). The heavy barrel allows the sights to settle in an instant. For a factory cartridge the ballistics and bullet choices are pretty good. I dont recall ever handloading for this gun tho I have dies and brass for it.....it does not get shot very often....and it holds it's groups year after year. I've got a few prettier guns and guns that are nice to carry and handle.....but for me, that 25-06 Savage "beast" is a reliable, long range shooter. Just don't buy one like it to carry in the mountains.....Ask me how I know.
roymunson
5 year old buck +
Talk to me about the newer Savage 110 ultralites? I know savage can make some entry level guns, but I hear good things about the newer 110s. Particularly in the 300 diameter guns.
Does anyone know anything about that?
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
I read a few articles about the lightweight Savage guns. Seems they got 'em under 6 lbs and the guns shoot pretty well off the bench. I had some experience with a Remington Titanium ultralight gun I purchased some years ago. Mine was in 7mm/08....and before mounting a scope it weighed in just under 6 lbs IIRC. I found it quite a shooter off the bench too....but when shooting at long range in the field it was a tricky gun to shoot well. In field conditions....the lightweight has the crosshairs fidgeting all around the targets in my experience. I gave that gun to my SIL and he uses it for blind hunting with relatively short range shots. It's not a real great choice for him either....but it is nice to carry.
I see on Gun Broker those Remington Titanium action guns still command a pretty steep price....but I cannot brag on it's shooting ability in the field. I have a Remington Mountain Rifle in 280 Rem. that is a bit more of a compromise.....and it has just enough weight to be a reliable shooter, and still carries quite well. I do not think ultra-light and long-range mix very well. If you go this route.....a bipod or shooting sticks may be helpful. My 2 cents.
Angus 1895
5 year old buck +
Me thinks the 25 06 could be the paramount in goat medicine
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
Angus....your signature line...reminds me of a guy I shot Prarie Dogs with on many occasions out in South Dakota. He used the line "Shoot a little HIGHER sheriff.....he's riding a shetland" several times each day after a low shot. Good times back in the 80's. Another trip out west to a dog town, with my old shooting partner Bob.....would sure be fun.
Angus 1895
5 year old buck +
I stole the quote from Bob Wills
The song big balls in cow town
The song big balls in cow town
Telemark
5 year old buck +
I don't have a Savage ultralight, but I have a Weatherby ultra lightweight, and a couple Savages. The Savages are outstanding rifles. I will be buying more, but probably not the ultralight.
The Weatherby is a very good hunting gun, but it is no range gun. I chopped the barrel down and added a silencer, and now it is a great rifle for hunting in the mountains, as I often do here. Great blind gun too.
The Savage ultralight seems to be made for long-range shots in open terrain. That's just not the conditions where I hunt, so it's not a gun for me. But if I hunted large tracts of wilderness terrain out West, I would give it a serious look.
Angus 1895
5 year old buck +
The only criticism I have about these modern bolt action in expensive rifles are the lack of iron sights.
since I had LASIK’s I can shoot iron sights, with detachable rings on a weaver base you can shoot them with iron sights in inclement weather. But very few new bolt actions have sights on them to my knowledge
since I had LASIK’s I can shoot iron sights, with detachable rings on a weaver base you can shoot them with iron sights in inclement weather. But very few new bolt actions have sights on them to my knowledge
Telemark
5 year old buck +
Lack of iron sights is normal for most bolt-action rifles, and has been for maybe 20 years. Even expensive rifles are manufactured without iron sights.
You can get lense covers for your scope, which keep the rain off. Anti-fog coating helps too. I hunt in the rain a lot, and I find the lense covers do the trick. It would be an incredible hassle to take my scope off every time it rained.
Angus 1895
5 year old buck +
I take mine off when I ride mules unless its in leupold rings and bases.
