Trees orders?

[bigboreblr]

What do you guys got up your sleeves?

Ordered (2) winter wildlife, AWHO, Big Deer, Violi's, 10 siberian crab rootstock, 10 M111's, and 5 Anty rootstock. Hoping to get some turning point, winter wildlife, violi's, and redfree scion this winter.

Not alot of sold out stuff at tree places, thinking folks are ordering light this year. Economy and tough dry conditions this year?

 

[gunfun13]

A few chestnuts and persimmons from BH just to fill in.

I'm mostly done planting trees, out of space. Do have one remaining spot I'm considering adding another small apple orchard. I have a bunch of seedling dolgos in a garden, I'll graft them with scions from existing trees if I decide to.

 

[Teeder]

I have just a few fill-ins ordered. 1-2 each of Arkansas Black, Yates and Sweet November, maybe a couple others that I can't remember.
Like gunfun13 said, I'm just about out of room for fruit trees. This will make about 40 on my hunting property and 20'ish at home.

 

[sandbur]

I will probably just topwork one or two. I am not sure which varieties.

Maybe for deer, maybe for people.

 

[MW22392]

I have 4 big Lou, 4 sonofcal and 4 winter carabina crab apple on order. The past two years I’ve done pears, chestnuts and persimmons so looking to add to the diversity quota!

 

[b116757]

I haven’t ordered anything this fall. I am planning on grafting over several native pecan trees over to paper shell varieties this next spring.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

Waiting to pull the trigger on some plums from cold spring farms..
But also have a bunch from blue hill:
August apricot, jackpot pear, big dog, candy crab, sweet dog, peak attraction, Big lou…
From WC I got Fuji, death wish and a northern spy..
All will be planted in the spring then I might be done (but probably not)…
Still want a Franklin cider

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Waiting to pull the trigger on some plums from cold spring farms..
But also have a bunch from blue hill:
August apricot, jackpot pear, big dog, candy crab, sweet dog, peak attraction, Big lou…
From WC I got Fuji, death wish and a northern spy..
All will be planted in the spring then I might be done (but probably not)…
Still want a Franklin cider

I believe Stark's is the only place that has Franklin Cider apple trees anymore. I think they hold the only rights to propagate it. With Stark, you don't know what rootstock you'll be getting it on - they don't specify. I don't believe Stark uses Antonovka, Dolgo, or P-18 rootstocks, which would grow bigger trees.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

I believe Stark's is the only place that has Franklin Cider apple trees anymore. I think they hold the only rights to propagate it. With Stark, you don't know what rootstock you'll be getting it on - they don't specify. I don't believe Stark uses Antonovka, Dolgo, or P-18 rootstocks, which would grow bigger trees.

Could always get a smaller one and either put it near my house or get it grafted onto something bigger…

 

[gunfun13]

I believe Stark's is the only place that has Franklin Cider apple trees anymore. I think they hold the only rights to propagate it. With Stark, you don't know what rootstock you'll be getting it on - they don't specify. I don't believe Stark uses Antonovka, Dolgo, or P-18 rootstocks, which would grow bigger trees.

Since Stark got out of commercial production to focus solely on retail, it opened the doors for other producers to offer it including Waflers, Cummins, and Grandpas Orchard.

FWIW, I have a 5 year old Franklin Cider from Stark on B118. Right now I consider it a candidate to top work, but am willing to give it a couple more years to see if my mind can be changed. Definitely unimpressed thus far.

 

[sandbur]

Since Stark got out of commercial production to focus solely on retail, it opened the doors for other producers to offer it including Waflers, Cummins, and Grandpas Orchard.

FWIW, I have a 5 year old Franklin Cider from Stark on B118. Right now I consider it a candidate to top work, but am willing to give it a couple more years to see if my mind can be changed. Definitely unimpressed thus far.

Franklin seems to be a late dropper. I decided I don’t want to make hard cider. I have it on B118 like you do. I top worked it to Pipsqueak and presently have two large nurse limbs.

I am wondering if I should leave one limb for deer, or graft for a Franken tree, or leave it just be Pipsqueak.

Franklin doesn’t impress me either.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

Franklin seems to be a late dropper. I decided I don’t want to make hard cider. I have it on B118 like you do. I top worked it to Pipsqueak and presently have two large nurse limbs.

I am wondering if I should leave one limb for deer, or graft for a Franken tree, or leave it just be Pipsqueak.

Franklin doesn’t impress me either.

Man you guys are really making me want to look for a better cider tree than Franklin..any thoughts??

 

[homerj]

Man you guys are really making me want to look for a better cider tree than Franklin..any thoughts??

Sweet cider or hard cider?

 

[Derek Reese 29]

Sweet cider or hard cider?

Not sure? Just got a press and stuff last year so far it’s all been sweet but could try hard at some point..

 

[homerj]

Not sure? Just got a press and stuff last year so far it’s all been sweet but could try hard at some point..

I think Franklin cider probably has good value for hard cider. Not so much for sweet cider.

 

[Mortenson]

What are the best trees for hard cider?

 

[homerj]

What are the best trees for hard cider?

Plenty of them. Many online nurseries have sections set aside for cider apples. Those are all for hard cider, not sweet cider. In the cider making world most folks mean hard cider when the term cider is used.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Since Stark got out of commercial production to focus solely on retail, it opened the doors for other producers to offer it including Waflers, Cummins, and Grandpas Orchard.

FWIW, I have a 5 year old Franklin Cider from Stark on B118. Right now I consider it a candidate to top work, but am willing to give it a couple more years to see if my mind can be changed. Definitely unimpressed thus far.

I didn't know Cummins had FC. We've bought lots of apple trees from Cummins over the years. Thanks for that info. The one FC we have at camp has grown really well. Wouldn't mind having another.

 

[H20fwler]

Man you guys are really making me want to look for a better cider tree than Franklin..any thoughts??

Virginia/Hewes crab, it's a decent eating apple too. Golf ball size for me here. I've read it is a popular cider apple.

All the hype 7-8 years ago about Franklin got a lot of them planted, hasn't been anything special for me either.

 

[sandbur]

Man you guys are really making me want to look for a better cider tree than Franklin..any thoughts??

I can offer you no advice on hard cider. For sweet cider, I like a mixture of apples with about 50% chestnut crab.

At one time, I bought a small bottle of ice hard cider from chestnut crabs. It was excellent. Chestnut crab may taste differently in other climates.