You should come with me to Red. We can base camp at my country estate and day trip it up and back from there. Maybe we can even scrounge up a few walleyes for a unity dinner after the experiment. I can even get us a third guy that is on the fence and will want to know the truth for himself. If we both have spotting scopes we can view it from both ends. I've got a sheet of plywood we can also paint up bright red and stand it next to my platform.SD is my homey too. First time we met he had a “can I get a hug” t-shirt on. So I did. Kind of freaked him out a little.
But flat vs sphere is where we part ways. He always sucks me back in to this thread.
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Are you saying water can fail to seek it's lowest level?testing a 6 mile or so piece of the earth to prove that 25,000 miles is flat or round is such a tiny subject sample, only the biden adminstration would accept it. The earth is round, but not perfectly, lol!
Wonder what kinda political/conspiracy agenda guided the minds of Eratosthenes, Magellan, Aristotle, Pythagoras, etc etc when they decided (independently) to dupe the world 2500 yrs ago and proclaim the earth a sphere? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Nasa and Hollywood weren't around at that time
10k is an awfully short test sample, but since ice always freezes perfectly (with no lumps or valleys) and the guys cutting the road will be sure to follow elevation perfectly you should be good to go. Or... you could meet at Cozumel and watch the cruise ships come in. I never knew it before but they are part submarine! They pop up out of the flat ocean; you see the smoke stack first, then the cabins, then the deck, and finally the full ship. I guess you guys can decide where to do the test... frozen tundra of the northeast, or the tropics of an island paradise. (I know which choice will have ladies in bikinis)
We can settle it once and for all on Hillman's ice road on Upper Red Lake in MN this winter. Hillmans plow that thing arrow straight out 10+ miles. Standing up at 6' high, any vehicle should completely vanish at 6.2 miles. With a 60x spotting scope, that vehicle will appear just over 545 feet away. 6' tall should clear any ground clutter that may obstruct the view (drifts, heaves, etc), and any truck or SUV should be completely hidden behind the arc. An F150 is 77 inches tall. 6'-8" is 80. The truck or anything shorter should be completely hidden.
If it's windy and there is lots of moving snow, we could shorten it up by dropping down lower.
Anyone ice fishing a big lake could do the same, but an ice road makes it quick and easy. I can grab some totes to stack up upon which to put the spotting scope tripod.
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How do those ice roads work when they're on public water? You would need permission to cross his land to reach the roads, but I would think anyone could plow a path to meet up with a road someone else plowed.Just dont let Johny catch you out on the the roads without paying him that day.
It's been done. Then the fun begins. Those guys defend the borders of their roads. Someone hooks up to it, I've seen them go out and plow it back shut.How do those ice roads work when they're on public water? You would need permission to cross his land to reach the roads, but I would think anyone could plow a path to meet up with a road someone else plowed.
That's kind of what I figured. It seems pretty crazy to think that by plowing an ice road on public water that the guy in the plow truck believes he created an imaginary line that nobody can cross without paying him.It's been done. Then the fun begins. Those guys defend the borders of their roads. Someone hooks up to it, I've seen them go out and plow it back shut.
I think it's a matter of lots of hours, lot of fuel, and lots of wrenching on junk to keep it running.That's kind of what I figured. It seems pretty crazy to think that by plowing an ice road on public water that the guy in the plow truck believes he created an imaginary line that nobody can cross without paying him.
Seems like a situation where vehicles on both sides could end up with slashed tires.
10k is an awfully short test sample, but since ice always freezes perfectly (with no lumps or valleys) and the guys cutting the road will be sure to follow elevation perfectly you should be good to go. Or... you could meet at Cozumel and watch the cruise ships come in. I never knew it before but they are part submarine! They pop up out of the flat ocean; you see the smoke stack first, then the cabins, then the deck, and finally the full ship. I guess you guys can decide where to do the test... frozen tundra of the northeast, or the tropics of an island paradise. (I know which choice will have ladies in bikinis)