Ok to mix gly and 2-4D together?
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seadonist
5 year old buck +
Because I have some broadleaf plants that were unaffected by the gly application and the grasses are going to need another application and in an effort to save time I was wondering if mixing the two and spraying them together would be ok.
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seadonist
5 year old buck +
Yes, I was planing on filling the tank with water and then adding the gly and 2-4D
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yoderjac
5 year old buck +
Read the label and keep in mind they don't just kill different weeds, their action is different as well. Make sure you consider the crop you are planting next. There are even different forms of 24d that have different residual effects.
I'll give you an example of what I'm planning right now. I am having an issue with Marestail which laughs at gly. I planted some soybeans that were hit so hard by deer their food value is becoming quite small. Normally I surface broadcast a cover crop into the standing beans when they yellow, but instead, I'm gong to take this opportunity to deal with the weed of some of the bean fields and I'll let deer use what is left in the others for the rest of summer.
Tomorrow I plan to spray 24-D Amine. It has a soil residual effect unlike glyphosate. After it has had a week to do its thing, I'm going to do some minimal tillage. I'll use a tiller and set it so high it is chewing up vegetation but only hits the top inch or less of soil. Just enough to break any crust. My hope is the 24-D Amine kills the marestail so it does not regenerate from the roots. About 2 weeks after that (3 weeks after spraying the 24-D Amine), I'll plant. I'll surface broadcast my cover crop mix (WR, CC, and Turnips) and then spray with glyphosate. That 2 weeks after the light tillage should give any new weeds time to start growing. They will be young, tender, and very susceptible to gly.
This is not to say you can't tank mix. It all depends on your situation and what you are trying to accomplish. Spraying gly at the last minute gives my cover crop a better advantage over weeds rather than giving the weeds a head-start. Spraying 24-D Amine early gives time for the soil effects to diminish prior to planting.
Thanks,
Jack
I'll give you an example of what I'm planning right now. I am having an issue with Marestail which laughs at gly. I planted some soybeans that were hit so hard by deer their food value is becoming quite small. Normally I surface broadcast a cover crop into the standing beans when they yellow, but instead, I'm gong to take this opportunity to deal with the weed of some of the bean fields and I'll let deer use what is left in the others for the rest of summer.
Tomorrow I plan to spray 24-D Amine. It has a soil residual effect unlike glyphosate. After it has had a week to do its thing, I'm going to do some minimal tillage. I'll use a tiller and set it so high it is chewing up vegetation but only hits the top inch or less of soil. Just enough to break any crust. My hope is the 24-D Amine kills the marestail so it does not regenerate from the roots. About 2 weeks after that (3 weeks after spraying the 24-D Amine), I'll plant. I'll surface broadcast my cover crop mix (WR, CC, and Turnips) and then spray with glyphosate. That 2 weeks after the light tillage should give any new weeds time to start growing. They will be young, tender, and very susceptible to gly.
This is not to say you can't tank mix. It all depends on your situation and what you are trying to accomplish. Spraying gly at the last minute gives my cover crop a better advantage over weeds rather than giving the weeds a head-start. Spraying 24-D Amine early gives time for the soil effects to diminish prior to planting.
Thanks,
Jack
seadonist
5 year old buck +
10-4. I will not plant until mid-September at the earliest and I don't plan on tilling the soil so hopefully the 2-4D will have dissipated enough by planting time. I will be planting WW, WR, Oates and clover
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seadonist
5 year old buck +
Looks like purchasing online is the only way to get it.? Where do you get it from?
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yoderjac
5 year old buck +
To be honest, weeds are more of an issue with spring planting than fall planting in my area but I still like applying gly at planting time rather than earlier. If you don't have the time to spray twice, a tank mix will certainly work. By the way, you might want to add your general location or USDA hardiness zone to your profile.
Thanks,
Jack
seadonist
5 year old buck +
I'm new to the in-depth food plotting so I don't know what my USDA hardiness zone is (I'm sure a quick google search would tell me) but I'll add my location to my profile, which is south Mississippi. Thanks for the tip.
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http://www.apparentag.com.au/documents/data/apparent-compatability-chart.pdf
Just got through researching this myself. Turns out my 2,4D amine was NOT compatible with my roundup. Wondered why the 2,4D label made no mention of mixing with Gly. Apparently the ester is the 2,4D that is mostly mixed with Gly. The label is the law.
Just got through researching this myself. Turns out my 2,4D amine was NOT compatible with my roundup. Wondered why the 2,4D label made no mention of mixing with Gly. Apparently the ester is the 2,4D that is mostly mixed with Gly. The label is the law.
seadonist
5 year old buck +
I guess that would make sense if the chemicals in the two could be molecularly changed when they come into contact with each other.
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yoderjac
5 year old buck +
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/ When you ask questions about food plotting or trees or whatever, the answers can be quite different based on location. You can find yours with your zip on the link.
Thanks,
Jack
