Thanks Ed, roughly when would you say your Kerr starts to drop and when does it seem to drop the majority of its apples. The reason I ask is I have a small orchard that is separated into 2 sections, early to mid season droppers and mid to late season droppers. I would like to put a Kerr where it might best be suited. I have read where Kerr's tend to hang onto there fruit but I'm trying to find a generalized time frame of there major drop time. I know there's several variables that can come into play here but just wanting to see every ones observations and opinions that have this crab in there orchard.