Habitat out loud

I didn't get a picture of it, but I've got a 5' tall solid stand of canada thistle about the size of a pickup truck. I told my buddy to make sure and leave that stand. I wanted to make sure it finishes it's life cycle. There's also a good landmark right behind it for picture reference. I'm betting I can get that patch to disappear completely in two years with time and about $4 worth of gypsum.
 
You don’t have an issue getting triticale to the soil after the initial cut?
I'm sure there will be some. I'm also hoping 60 days of settling and hoof action will have that duff close enough to the soil that it can germinate and reach down and connect before running out of power.
 
This is my north plot all mowed up now. It’s a patchwork of saved bur oaks and multiple expansions over the years.

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This is the Canada thistle patch I saved. The white pine right behind it is the marker.

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The mower roughed things up just enough that it got me to spread a little seed out there to try to use those disturbed spots.




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This is my north plot all mowed up now. It’s a patchwork of saved bur oaks and multiple expansions over the years.

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This is the Canada thistle patch I saved. The white pine right behind it is the marker.

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The mower roughed things up just enough that it got me to spread a little seed out there to try to use those disturbed spots.




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I like the looks of that plot. The irregular shape and trees should make the deer feel safe. Some nice bow stand trees also.
 
I like the looks of that plot. The irregular shape and trees should make the deer feel safe. Some nice bow stand trees also.
Thanks guy. I put a little bit of thought into that. when I had the machinery out there, it was hard to resist the urge to just tear everything out and make it a big open square. But I wanted it big but also cozy and eliminate some lines of sight. Those two patches of solid bush are very carefully managed for only desired species and extreme ground density/cover. The rest get extracted with the silky or chainsaw.
 
Thanks guy. I put a little bit of thought into that. when I had the machinery out there, it was hard to resist the urge to just tear everything out and make it a big open square. But I wanted it big but also cozy and eliminate some lines of sight. Those two patches of solid bush are very carefully managed for only desired species and extreme ground density/cover. The rest get extracted with the silky or chainsaw.
What is the purple flower in the background?

Chicory or the beloved vetch?

bill
 
What is the purple flower in the background?

Chicory or the beloved vetch?

bill
If this is what you're talking about, that's a solid patch of canada thistle. I had to move some dirt over there to close up a trench I had made, and it erupted with thistle. That's where I had the guy mowing specifically leave that to showcase my thistle theory, and to finish rehabbing the ground there.

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That'll get a dose of gypsum yet this year and I'll probably broad cast triticale into it in October and then press it flat.
 
If this is what you're talking about, that's a solid patch of canada thistle. I had to move some dirt over there to close up a trench I had made, and it erupted with thistle. That's where I had the guy mowing specifically leave that to showcase my thistle theory, and to finish rehabbing the ground there.

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That'll get a dose of gypsum yet this year and I'll probably broad cast triticale into it in October and then press it flat.

I love it. Cant wait to hear how it turns out.
 
Here’s the yard plot 7 days after oats and roll.

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There is still burdock out here, and that’s on my list of calcium displacement targets. I put down 2000 lbs/ac gypsum here on Sunday. Now I’d like one more rain to wash that in.

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Goodies are punching thru. One thing I’m a little worried about is the tall residue layer from the YSC. It’s not any thicker than anywhere else, it just didn’t compress and flatten as wel as the rye/other clover areas did.

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The one thing I noticed...

No purple oats.

No fallow syndrome.
 

Pay no mind to fertilizer recommendations. It counters the material presented above it. Just need living plants throughout.

From the article, that MF'n MF:

Corn, wheat, and other grass plants receive help taking up phosphorus and other nutrients from associations with beneficial mycorrhiza fungi. These fungi and their host plants form a beneficial relationship with each other. The corn plants provide the mycorrhiza fungi with sugars and the mycorrhiza fungi help the corn plants absorb nutrients such as phosphorus and zinc. These mycorrhiza fungi essentially become an extension of the corn root system. However, without live plant roots during a fallow year, these fungi are depleted over the season and into the following spring, which causes fallow syndrome.

Many crops and weeds form beneficial relationships with mycorrhiza fungi. However, brassica crops and some other crops are not hosts for these fungi. Therefore, if you seeded cover crops or planted crops such as only forage radish, turnips, or sugarbeets on prevent plant acres this year, you will still likely see fallow syndrome symptoms on corn acres next season. Corn will grow out of fallow syndrome symptoms as its root system elongates and becomes larger. However, fields can remain pale and stunted, and some yield will likely be lost.
 

Pay no mind to fertilizer recommendations. It counters the material presented above it. Just need living plants throughout.

From the article, that MF'n MF:

Corn, wheat, and other grass plants receive help taking up phosphorus and other nutrients from associations with beneficial mycorrhiza fungi. These fungi and their host plants form a beneficial relationship with each other. The corn plants provide the mycorrhiza fungi with sugars and the mycorrhiza fungi help the corn plants absorb nutrients such as phosphorus and zinc. These mycorrhiza fungi essentially become an extension of the corn root system. However, without live plant roots during a fallow year, these fungi are depleted over the season and into the following spring, which causes fallow syndrome.

Many crops and weeds form beneficial relationships with mycorrhiza fungi. However, brassica crops and some other crops are not hosts for these fungi. Therefore, if you seeded cover crops or planted crops such as only forage radish, turnips, or sugarbeets on prevent plant acres this year, you will still likely see fallow syndrome symptoms on corn acres next season. Corn will grow out of fallow syndrome symptoms as its root system elongates and becomes larger. However, fields can remain pale and stunted, and some yield will likely be lost.
What in the Sam Hill....is a normal person's mind supposed to make out of this word salad? I have not a clue what is being said here. I feel like I'm in advanced biology class here. Anyone else having issues understanding this?
 
What in the Sam Hill....is a normal person's mind supposed to make out of this word salad? I have not a clue what is being said here. I feel like I'm in advanced biology class here. Anyone else having issues understanding this?
This very idea is why your pigweed and hawkweed went away after you stopped spraying and tilling. Every time you knocked out your MF with iron or chems, the only plants that could thrive after were those that do so because they don't need MF to get nutrients into themselves. They ran wild because their competition couldn't grow.

In it's simplest form, all living soils (those that always have living plants on them the entire growing season) are loaded with mycorhizal fungi. The only way to get rid of MF is to spray or till, and they'll still come back on their own after a while. MF is the missing link between soil and plants. It's the circulatory system that delivers soil nutrients into a plant.

If you have it, you don't need P and K. I've never put fertilizer on this plot. If your plant array is balanced, you don't need N either. pH and macro minerals (calcium and magnesium) need to be minded, but if you've got the pH and minerals right, she's gonna pop with no further inputs. I'm still adding calcium for weed prevention purposes, but in this photo, the gypsum is still laying there in dry pellet form. The hardest part of keeping a living system is transitioning from one crop to the next. I haven't mastered that yet, but I'm trying.

That's why this oats and roll trial is so important. Normally, where this would fail from here would be, the plants that are already there (clover, chicory, alfalfa) will come back so fast that they tower over the oats and they die out for lack of sunlight.
 
What in the Sam Hill....is a normal person's mind supposed to make out of this word salad? I have not a clue what is being said here. I feel like I'm in advanced biology class here. Anyone else having issues understanding this?

It is very poorly written. The grammar is atrocious.
 
This is why I want a flail mower. I’ve gotten the high residue growing down, but now I have heavy duff and bald spots.

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I’m warming up to throw and roll quickly, but I’ve got to temper my expectations until I see how it greens up.


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There is good news and there is bad news. I didn't get any phone pics tonight, it was dark when I got here, but I ran out and grabbed cards from around the yard.

Good news: The oats are coming big as shit. Germination is off the charts.

Bad news: 12-15 bushels was a tad bit high. I think 4 would have been plenty.

A little time lapse over a few days. I did get word I hooked another inch of rain the past 48 hours, so I'd say my gypsum has been soaked in and activated.

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That patch of rye in the middle of the photo disappeared quickly.

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Here’s the official update on the yard plot. Also 14 days in. The mower guy left me a shit pile of residue in the corner. That’s ok. It’s clover under there if it can punch thru.

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The duff layer is almost overtaken by the oats and whatnot.

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The goodies are poking thru.

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The weed of concern here is burdock. It’s been handled. Now I’ve got to wait and see. I also have a big stand of catchfly all over this plot, but it seems to play nice.

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This is why I decided to top up the seed bank with more clover and alfalfa. It’s just seems really oat heavy right now. And maybe it needs that. It was fairly heavy on legumes when I rolled it.

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Day 22 since throw and roll.

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It’s all woven together now.

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The burdock cometh.

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The alfalfa and clovers are filling in better by the day now.

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This one little patch in the middle is behind, and I don’t understand why.

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Catchfly, lots of it out here. Native and deer don’t eat it, but it doesn’t do any harm and it’s a bonus broadleaf for the cap.

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I’ve spread three pounds of ragweed all over my property and there’s not much that has survived.

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I spread gypsum heavy on the edges. That’s where I’ve got encroachment from brome grass and some kind of vine. It’s looking really good right now.

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The test hoog that is 4x6 feet gave 2 gallons of cherries and nearly a gallon of beans today.

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The woods has been on lockdown now in anticipation of bow hunting in another few weeks. I’ll still go each week and work on projects around the yard and cabin. Yesterday I got a new ceiling fan installed and got the yard trimmed up really well. This is my favorite time of year.

Here’s some shots from just on or around the yard.

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This is a crab my brother gave me. I can’t remember exactly what it is. Maybe a red splendor crab?

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Got the garden complex all mowed up and fancy looking.

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I have a thing about wide, smooth, and groomed trails.

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