Franklin Cider Apples Don't Drop

meyerske

5 year old buck +
I've got four Franklin Ciders. They've done OK; one had some fireblight last year but recovered. Good CAR resistance. My issue is that the apples hang on the tree forever. They don't drop. This is in southern Ohio. Anyone else experience this? They've been in the ground for four years. I'm giving them another year and then considering topping them and grafting something else onto them.

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I've got four Franklin Ciders. They've done OK; one had some fireblight last year but recovered. Good CAR resistance. My issue is that the apples hang on the tree forever. They don't drop. This is in southern Ohio. Anyone else experience this? They've been in the ground for four years. I'm giving them another year and then considering topping them and grafting something else onto them.

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I top worked mine to Pipsqueak last year. Not sure if I will retain a Franklin limb or not
 
I have a Franklin about a year older than yours. I expected it's first good crop this year but was hit with a 23F frost while in bloom and only ended up with a handful of fruit. So far I'm pretty unimpressed with the variety but willing to give it some more time before top working to something else. I was recently looking through old threads on this site regarding Franklin Cider Apple, and it does seem to be a late season dropper for other people. I will also add that several of my apple/crabapple trees seem to drop their fruit more readily as they've matured.
 
Does anyone make cider from their Franklin cider apples?
 
I’ve got four of them about the same age as yours. I agree they aren’t what I thought they would be.
I shake mine hard as I go by and some drop off, they are smaller fruit so hang on pretty good.
I’ve got plenty of room and plenty of fruit trees, they hang like Droptine, Golden Hornet, All Winter Hangover and many others that are touted to be very late season fruit.
I planted mine to do exactly that, hold way into winter crazy slow drop even into March.

My goal was to have fruit dropping from late summer deep into winter, they fill that space.
If you don’t really want way late fruit to help wildlife in winter don’t plant them.
Lots of late hangers drop really really slow, I would rather have that than just a bare wildlife orchard all through winter, but that’s just my personal opinion.

The Franklin was marketed as a wonder apple that would produce crazy heavy fruit loads, taste like Honeycrisp, have a slow steady drop through fall into winter and be a crazy good cider apple like Hewes/Virginia crab.
Mine have not lived up to that.
Deer/coon/birds still eat them so it’s not a loss, just not what I expected out of them.
 
I planted our Franklins as wildlife trees - only 2 of them. No cider intentions or even as an eating apple. If they produce big fruit loads like the parent tree pics show, they'll fill the bill for our camp.
 
I have quite a few Franklins and on my place in Minnesota they have ugly looking fruit that doesn't taste very good to me, but they are a solid wildlife tree. The fruit is still hanging on the tree now and typically slowly drops over the next couple months. Winter calories are hard to come by in our area, so this is a solid variety if that is your goal.
 
Show some pictures of the fruit. Smaller fruit tends to hang on longer. Have you been pruning the tree.

Often trees not pruned or pruned much tend to make smaller fruit. Dont blame you topworking it though. I have one from 2022. Too soon to tell.

There are trees who make good fresh cider and trees that make good hard cider. I believe franklin is more of the hard cider variety.

Buckman and Kerr seems to be pretty good crabs talked about often on here. Putting a good effort on turning point, kerr,and Violi's up at camp zone 3. At home zone 5/6 I putting my efforts on enterprise, galarina, and sundance for the deer. I have copies of all the crabs and apple trees I have at camp at home as well. The only expection is seedling dolgo's and antonovka. No real need to copy them. Put effort into early and mid season fruit too. Keep em looking and finding food all year long.
 
That's what I want it for.

 
I know my late hanging crabs in winter really attract cardinals, grossbeaks and titmice...especially the GH&Briar Lane and a love the way GH looks in fall absolutely loaded with yellow/orange colored fruit.
Last year I saw at least two dozen tufted titmice on my biggest GH in Feb when we had snow. And the deer and bunnies keep checking around the tree bases so they must be eating whatever falls.


I just like saying titmouse! Cool little birds look like miniature hen cardinals.
 
That's what I want it for.
You'll be Pretty happy. Tried to get into hard ciders. They just burn my stomache up. Redfield, empire, roxbury annd olden russet, harrison, and hewes are good to have around. Easiest way to make a sweet tasting hard cider like angry orchard is to add some pears to it. sorbitol is a natural sweetener that pears have more of. It is non fermentable unlike fructose and sucrose.
 
meyerske,

What other apples do you have around. Maybe we can suggest some more deer seasonable droppers.
 
meyerske,

What other apples do you have around. Maybe we can suggest some more deer seasonable droppers.
I've got a few dozen apple trees planted. My favorite for deer is Enterprise. I'll give the Franklin Ciders another year, but IMO they were way overhyped.

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I know my late hanging crabs in winter really attract cardinals, grossbeaks and titmice...especially the GH&Briar Lane and a love the way GH looks in fall absolutely loaded with yellow/orange colored fruit.
Last year I saw at least two dozen tufted titmice on my biggest GH in Feb when we had snow. And the deer and bunnies keep checking around the tree bases so they must be eating whatever falls.


I just like saying titmouse! Cool little birds look like miniature hen cardinals.
Titmice & cardinals are hitting our Sugar Thyme crab in our back yard now. Loads of red 1/2" fruit - good DR crab. Titmice are cool little birds. I have a cage feeder with suet cakes right next to that Sugar Thyme crab = bird cafeteria.
 
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