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I have seen decoys made like that but have never used one. I thought they were more decorative.

The fish in the mouth might make it hard to swim.
I feel a pointed nose on the decoy tends to give a smoother swim. An open mouth with something in it, might cause an erratic swim.

And I could be all wrong!
 
Burr tomorrow I will show you a way to balance decoys that are already produced
 
Burr tomorrow I will show you a way to balance decoys that are already produced

Please do.. I've got some lures that are 16" long I can't get to swim. (been working on a teaser rig I just can't get to swim right). I'll just have to do what ever you do on a larger scale. They turn on their side. Added lead to the bottom but still can't get them right.
 
Bill just wanted to show you the last batch if squids I tied. Curious on your hook rigs. I use single n treble behind them.
 

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Bill please send me some pictures of your teaser rig. We use teaser rigs for salmon in michigan. If you need to text dm me
 
Please do.. I've got some lures that are 16" long I can't get to swim. (been working on a teaser rig I just can't get to swim right). I'll just have to do what ever you do on a larger scale. They turn on their side. Added lead to the bottom but still can't get them right.
In the winter spearing world, there are hand crafted decoys called wobblers or sometimes a different name. They don’t swim, but a twitch or jiggling of the line imitates a dying fish. These are fished vertically and may not serve your purpose.

When I say a decoy swims, I am also referring to a vertical fishing situation.

They don’t really need to swim to attract fish. Spinning golf balls painted various colors and spoons also work.

When I was in junior high, some friends went spearing and forgot the decoys. They folded a Copenhagen lid in half. Punched a hole in it and tied on the lid. They got fish.
 
Bill n Burr. I use storm suspend strips to balance out decoys. Sometimes I have to use 4 strips to balance them better.
 

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Bill n Burr. I use storm suspend strips to balance out decoys. Sometimes I have to use 4 strips to balance them better.
Thanks for the tip
 
Bill just wanted to show you the last batch if squids I tied. Curious on your hook rigs. I use single n treble behind them.
We use single hooks on most of our rigs. I'll dig some pictures up or take some.
 
In the winter spearing world, there are hand crafted decoys called wobblers or sometimes a different name. They don’t swim, but a twitch or jiggling of the line imitates a dying fish. These are fished vertically and may not serve your purpose.

When I say a decoy swims, I am also referring to a vertical fishing situation.

They don’t really need to swim to attract fish. Spinning golf balls painted various colors and spoons also work.

When I was in junior high, some friends went spearing and forgot the decoys. They folded a Copenhagen lid in half. Punched a hole in it and tied on the lid. They got fish.

Yes different. We are trying to get swimming action at 5 knots.
 
I'm trying to make this.

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Swim behind one of these dredge rigs at 7mph. The dredge is a teaser that mimics a school of squid. No hooks on any of it. Just to raise fish. Probably over kill but we're all bat shit crazy about the things we do anyway. 😆

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I may need to add a lip to it but don't want to turn it into a diver.
 
Bill is your goal to have a minnow chasing the teasers,? Does that work better than a fly?
 
Bill tomorrow I will show you a rotater salmon rig with a fly behind they maybe a lot less tackle and more effective that you could tweak
 
I have my doubts that a salmon style rig could stand up to a tuna and rotator rigs performing at 7&8 mph. Brother uses like 150# -200# leaders on his tackle. Out on the ocean they haul ass and basically try to run everything at the surface.

Those squid attractor rigs are run close behind the boat and want stuff to track in straight line cause most everything at same depth.
 
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I'm sure I could tie a rig with 130 pound class. A 12 inch rotator on the front with three teasers and the main hook rig. It would be interesting to see how it holds up and or attracts them
 
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