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In reality we all know next to nothing about this whole thing, kinda like the stock market. Overstating or understating the risk is good for nobody. I've learned over time to stay out of the way of people doing their job and let them do it, we are all trained to do different things. Those trained in pandemics are in a far better position than any of us to make decisions in what we should or should not be doing. Most of the world went into lockdown, not just the US. Is it going to make a difference in the outcome? I have no idea but I sure hope so otherwise what did we accomplish? Will our "soft" lockdown compared to other countries come to bite us?
 
Bill said:
Table M4 has and interesting data point. Top line clearly indicates that 100% of the dead people are dead.

sorry, just something I picked up. ;)
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Sorta like saying the most common cause of death is heart failure :emoji_grimacing:
 
bueller said:
I found this to be a good video on how to protect yourself from getting the virus.

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For now :emoji_thumbsup: pretty spot on... good advise, biggest breaks/hopes on the near horizon are the meds to treat ... and the antibody testing those two will have the biggest impact in the next few months. 6 - 8 months we may have a scaleable proven vaccine -- doubtful but with the number of dead we are going to soon see that red tape will likely change.

Your right about Ill. getting to be a behind the scenes shit show - its getting beyond pretty bad - starting to set the pace for the near future... hearing direct from guys on what they are seeing. Some are in quarantine all ready and the positives are getting pretty close to home. When we start racking up beyond 5K dead a day some of the arguments will fall away.
The rest of this is like watching two guys sitting at the bar on the Titanic arguing about the little bump they just felt being nothing and how they would rather be in a plane crash than a car crash because statistically more people die in car crashes.
 
I’m hoping we hear more on these antigen tests this week All of a sudden you‘re not hearing much on that. Now I’m wondering.
 
Anyone with a medical background able to shed any light on the hydrochloroquine/Malaria drug? Just saw the FDA approved it for use in treating this. But no one is really talking about it. Is it not a viable way to treat this?
 
I know they sent over 500,000 doses to NY. Some health care people are taking it everyday as a prophylactic And I believe they are using higher doses on really sick patients as part of a study at this time. You will probably be hearing more this week on that now the FDA has approved. Even if it helps some at least that takes pressure off
 
roymunson said:
Anyone with a medical background able to shed any light on the hydrochloroquine/Malaria drug? Just saw the FDA approved it for use in treating this. But no one is really talking about it. Is it not a viable way to treat this?
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The potential for this drug as a inhibitor has now been known for 3-4 weeks now in isolated cases. There is some observation that poor industrialized countries who have very poor water source systems and problems with malaria, have not shown virus presence yet ... these are countries such as Africa, south America, and other 3rd world nations.

I spoke to my good friend who is representative in South Africa this weekend and is very knowledgeable about the culture. They are aware of the hydrochloroquine "fix"; however, stated that Africa and many neighboring countries will never be a reliable base line for evaluation. Very high density of people who live a very communal life style where close human content is a ritual. When you look at Africa, The Middle East, Indonesia, and India ... no such thing there as social distancing.

From what i understand, the FDA did not approve, they made an emergency acceptance of the drugs use for persons with symptoms or in care to trial use the drug. Probably for high risk patients in hi-risk care. Probably lots of pressure to do so by the Whitehouse, a good thing though as these patients probably have no option.

This source drug you reference has been around for over 100 + years, was made famous by the Brits who invaded & occupied 3rd world nations ... quinine water was considered effective against malaria.

Start drinking Gin & Tonics ... you'll be good to go :emoji_wink:
 
roymunson said:
Anyone with a medical background able to shed any light on the hydrochloroquine/Malaria drug? Just saw the FDA approved it for use in treating this. But no one is really talking about it. Is it not a viable way to treat this?
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Time will tell on this but, the President said today 30 million doses were going to be distributed across the Country.
 
oops
 
Tree Spud said:
The potential for this drug as a inhibitor has now been known for 3-4 weeks now in isolated cases. There is some observation that poor industrialized countries who have very poor water source systems and problems with malaria, have not shown virus presence yet ... these are countries such as Africa, south America, and other 3rd world nations.

I spoke to my good friend who is representative in South Africa this weekend and is very knowledgeable about the culture. They are aware of the hydrochloroquine "fix"; however, stated that Africa and many neighboring countries will never be a reliable base line for evaluation. Very high density of people who live a very communal life style where close human content is a ritual. When you look at Africa, The Middle East, Indonesia, and India ... no such thing there as social distancing.

From what i understand, the FDA did not approve, they made an emergency acceptance of the drugs use for persons with symptoms or in care to trial use the drug. Probably for high risk patients in hi-risk care. Probably lots of pressure to do so by the Whitehouse, a good thing though as these patients probably have no option.

This source drug you reference has been around for over 100 + years, was made famous by the Brits who invaded & occupied 3rd world nations ... quinine water was considered effective against malaria.

Start drinking Gin & Tonics ... you'll be good to go :emoji_wink:
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I know a guy that drinks a LOT of gin and tonics. We think he has nine lives Maybe there’s something to this. LOL.
 
Happy Easter, It’s coming, You don’t need eggs. :emoji_wink:
Maybe we should put lambs blood over our door for Passover. (If you don’t get it, maybe time to look it up)

just messing :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::emoji_thermometer_face:
 
Well we have an infected neighbor. A woman across the streets tested positive yesterday. We will be treating them like a leper colony for the next few weeks. Still no word on how she got it. Her father is one of the people I hunt for here, so maybe I can get some info from him.
 
Buckly said:
I know a guy that drinks a LOT of gin and tonics. We think he has nine lives Maybe there’s something to this. LOL.
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If so, i run with a few some beaches who will live forever........

bill
 
Telemark said:
Well we have an infected neighbor. A woman across the streets tested positive yesterday. We will be treating them like a leper colony for the next few weeks. Still no word on how she got it. Her father is one of the people I hunt for here, so maybe I can get some info from him.
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we have a woman down the road a mile that has tested positive. she has had no symptoms. she was tested because she traveled to NYC and was in contact there with someone who might have had it. According to our health dept the County nurses will test again after two weeks and then another 3 days later. If negative they will be good to go.
 
TreeDaddy said:
If so, i run with a few some beaches who will live forever........

bill
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it must be an acquired taste. I can’t drink the stuff.
 
We have 39 positive cases at a state facility a half mile from us. It is a state supported living center for adults with mental deficiencies, and they just recently tested all staff and residents so I expect that number to be much higher once the results come back.

Nursing homes and prison systems will be BADLY hit with this as well.
 
I have a close friend who owns and operates numerous nursing homes. He tested all staff and residents. One facility had 5 staff and 30 residents test positive. None of them had any symptoms nor any idea they had the virus. Interesting.Suspect there is still much more to learn more about this virus.
 
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