Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

[H20fwler]

Pretty suspicious timing that the Russian Collusion story is getting air again right now . It's almost like Trump and company and trying to draw parallels between that last conspiracy and this one.



Yes, I get the irony of this Epstein story getting attention when nothing more was publicly known since January of 2024 (and now today with the WSJ article).

Both sides use uncertainty to score political points. Democrats embellished a legitimate news story of Russia interfering with US elections to mean that Trump was colluding with Russia. Trump claims it was all a hoax because clear collusion wasn't found (despite their being literal convictions about the interference). The truth tends to be the grey area that satisfies no one.

The difference in this story is that this is a peculiar self- inflicted wound by Trump. I genuinely don't think there is overwhelming evidence incriminating him. But he campaigned on releasing this, found out in May his name was included, and tried to cover it up. Why would he do this though? Even getting almost a two month head start on this he is still fumbling. Of course Democrats are twisting the knife. I would expect Republicans to do the same if the situation was reversed.

What exactly was the “legitimate news story” of Russia interfering with US elections?

Some of you guys on here need to contact the DOJ and volunteer to help out, you seem to have more real evidence than they have been able to find.

 

[Bill Loser]

Kinda funny, some here who were earlier saying it's only a list,no proof now are ready to hang only one the MIGHT be on the list... Typical liberal hypocrisy.
IF Trump was on the list, he would have known long ago he was on the list, there is literally no way possible he is just finding out now with the rest of the world.

 

[Brian662]

Found out the DOJ disclosed to Trump that he was on the list?

Please post up actual facts of that statement, and not Rachel Maddow speculating. No left wing fake news MSM spin, real facts.

You apparently know more about it than the justice department does.

 

[H20fwler]

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Did you read the article?
I just did and didn’t see any damning evidence against Trump.

I read where Trump actually told Bondi to unseal the Epstein files to the public.
And that files contained what officials thought was unverified hearsay about many people including Trump.

Didn’t the WSJ just get banned from the WH press core trips by Trump two days ago? And Trump just filed a lawsuit against them.
Weird how they put out a hit piece full of innuendos next day?

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

My dream in life is for one day someone defend me like people will defend trump.

 

[Brian662]

Did you read the article?
I just did and didn’t see any damning evidence against Trump.

I read where Trump actually told Bondi to unseal the Epstein files to the public.
And that files contained what officials thought was unverified hearsay about many people including Trump.

Didn’t the WSJ just get banned from the WH press core trips by Trump two days ago? And Trump just filed a lawsuit against them.
Weird how they put out a hit piece full of innuendos next day?

You asked for evidence and I provided it. Of course I read the article..

Naturally the pivot is to discredit the source.

This story isn't a hit piece from the fallout of them being thrown out from the WH press core, this IS the reason they were kicked out.

 

[Brian662]

My dream in life is for one day someone defend me like people will defend trump.

Who knew this meme would be so relevant so quickly. Again.

 

[Brian662]

LFG

 

[Bill Loser]

Crazy the rampant hypocrisy on here .. you libs go from it's just a list no proof of anything to Trump's on the list!!! Hang him! Unbelievable

 

[Bill Loser]

You guys need to think about this. Rationally not emotionally. Anyone who is might be or could be on any list that there may be in would already know that they at least could be on the list. It's not like they went there and engaged in activities with underage girls or boys and didn't know. So the point is if Trump could be or would be on any list he would have known a long long time ago or at least suspected he could be. So if that was the case, why would he be screaming to release the list?

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Did I miss the alternate universe where him not releasing the list is actually him screaming to release the list?

 

[b116757]

There is really very little chance any list gets released. Let’s say it is released and Brian662’s name is on the list and anyone else’s who foaming at the mouth to see “the list” because this is exactly what could happen to many people that could be on “the list” when the media circus moves to your lawn your life is greatly effected by being on “the list” but you had nothing to do with any of the nefarious actions that went on. It’s all fun and games until innocent people’s lives get destroyed over having any association with Epstein where there other bad actors in this honestly I don’t know. Speculating there where likely other bad actors and proving there where are two very different things.

 

[buckvelvet]

 

[bwoods11]

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My dream in life is for one day someone defend me like people will defend trump.

Come to grips, Trump won in a landslide (31 states) all the swing states + Nevada. It was over at halftime !

You are trying to tell us Biden & Obama covered all this up for Trump & “we” are telling you this is a known story with nothing criminal & The United States picked Trump over Harris !

So you, Brian, Tmax, Jerry & a few other Trump haters might just mark your calendar as Trump will be done in 3 years & 4 months.

 

[Bill Loser]

Did I miss the alternate universe where him not releasing the list is actually him screaming to release the list?

Miss it? No I think you are living in it.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I voted for Trump 3 times. He was the lesser of the evils. I like some of his policies. I also find him to be a “fake” conservative. I also think hes a piece of trash as a human. As a conservative, I believe in conservative principles and values. None of which is his strong suit. But…I hope he’s not guilty of anything and has the stomach to destroy those that are.

 

[Jerry-B-WI]

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Come to grips, Trump won in a landslide (31 states) all the swing states + Nevada. It was over at halftime !

You are trying to tell us Biden & Obama covered all this up for Trump & “we” are telling you this is a known story with nothing criminal & The United States picked Trump over Harris !

So you, Brian, Tmax, Jerry & a few other Trump haters might just mark your calendar as Trump will be done in 3 years & 4 months.

Trump will be reaching from the grave and influencing the country long after he's dead.

I do like some of his policies, secure border, changing immigration. I also think he's a trash human being and definitely not anything I would want anyone to model there life after. He's the absolute king of gaslighting. Everything he's done, been exposed to or touched is the most extreme, best, over the top that the country has seen or the world has experienced. Give me a break he wipes his ass just like you and me.

 

[Brian662]

There is really very little chance any list gets released. Let’s say it is released and Brian662’s name is on the list and anyone else’s who foaming at the mouth to see “the list” because this is exactly what could happen to many people that could be on “the list” when the media circus moves to your lawn your life is greatly effected by being on “the list” but you had nothing to do with any of the nefarious actions that went on. It’s all fun and games until innocent people’s lives get destroyed over having any occasion with Epstein where there other bad actors in this honestly I don’t know. Speculating there where likely other bad actors and proving there where are two very different things.

I guess because people who associated with a pedophile fiancier may possibly be hurt that we should cover up the list and further the divide of the criminal justice system and it's ability to expose criminals. No thanks.

For years we've complained about the FBI being crooked and now they're literally helping to cover up one of (potentially) the largest pedophile rings in the world and that's cool because a few people who've associated with Epstein may be innocent and don't need their names exposed? No thanks.

 

[T-Max]

Hahaha!!! I voted for Trump 3 times TOO!!! I must really hate him... Honestly I hate anyone who tells me they are going to do something and then calls me derogatory terms for expecting them to follow through. I guess that makes me a Liberal? You learn something new every day I guess...

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Hahaha!!! I voted for Trump 3 times TOO!!! I must really hate him... Honestly I hate anyone who tells me they are going to do something and then calls me derogatory terms for expecting them to follow through. I guess that makes me a Liberal? You learn something new every day I guess...

I have lived in the Deep South basically my whole life. Surrounded by the hunting, fishing and small southern town cultures. If I’m a liberal I’ve done one hell of a job of immersing myself in the wrong arenas.