Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

Earlier it was reported to be like the guns that farmers put animals down with. Then it was reported to be like the gun veterinarians use.

Strike three is a ghost gun.

I say strike three and you are out.

I worked as a farm veterinarian for forty years. I never saw a farmer with a gun like that and never saw a veterinarian with a gun like that.

I fear that everything about this case needs to be seriously questioned when a major part of it is BS. Pisses me off that false data is so easily spread by what is supposed to be trusted media like the AP.
Trusted media these days is about as likely as a honest Democrat
 
Earlier it was reported to be like the guns that farmers put animals down with. Then it was reported to be like the gun veterinarians use.

Strike three is a ghost gun.

I say strike three and you are out.

I worked as a farm veterinarian for forty years. I never saw a farmer with a gun like that and never saw a veterinarian with a gun like that.

I fear that everything about this case needs to be seriously questioned when a major part of it is BS. Pisses me off that false data is so easily spread by what is supposed to be trusted media like the AP.

Kinda wondered what that gun had to do with a Veterinarian?? Never thought auto loading pistols were needed to treat sick animals.
 
Anyone got a theory on the UFO Drones flying over New Jersey? Been said that numerous drones are the size of a SUV. Nobody knows who's they are?? They say they are loud.....and I would think people could see them take off or land. Whole story seems goofy to me.
 
Kinda wondered what that gun had to do with a Veterinarian?? Never thought auto loading pistols were needed to treat sick animals.
What they were claiming he used prior to them catching him was not an auto loader. It requires twisting a piece on the rear of the action then pulling open and pushing the action closed and twisting the piece on the rear to be ready to fire again. Just because these people are in law enforcement doesn't mean they know a thing about firearms. Most of what they are saying in the media is to drive an anti gun narrative. For instance, they claim that being a "ghost gun" makes it almost impossible to trace. Yet, the evidence used to prove that it is the firearm used in the crime will be rifling marks on bullets, metallurgy of the bullets compared to the ones that were found in his possession, firing pin marks on the primers, marks on casings from the mag, chamber, bolt face or slide, and extractor. NONE of this has anything to do with whether or not the lower was serialized.
 
I think that the cops were keeping a tight lip about everything because the public needed to know nothing except what the man looked like. People and press was reaching for anything to try to get clicks and throw out evidence most based on very little. So I figure several media and people watched live as the pack was found in the park so they would run with info about it or police diving in the pond looking for the gun. On the other hand you would think there is a suitcase setting in a hotel room since in town for 10 days full of evidence but you hear nothing from it because only cops in that room. From pics of gun people made up almost everything imaginable but not from detectives. If my observation is right then the cops did pretty good job and the press does what the press does
 
I think that the cops were keeping a tight lip about everything because the public needed to know nothing except what the man looked like. People and press was reaching for anything to try to get clicks and throw out evidence most based on very little. So I figure several media and people watched live as the pack was found in the park so they would run with info about it or police diving in the pond looking for the gun. On the other hand you would think there is a suitcase setting in a hotel room since in town for 10 days full of evidence but you hear nothing from it because only cops in that room. From pics of gun people made up almost everything imaginable but not from detectives. If my observation is right then the cops did pretty good job and the press does what the press does
I think you're giving law enforcement a bit more credit than they deserve. The information about it being a Station 6 or similar firearm came from NYPD. I'm not trying to criticize my friends in law enforcement, but we need to realize that they are just people too. Many are as equally uniformed as the rest of the public when it comes to firearms. Certainly there were officers that knew better than what the top brass was saying, but it wasn't their place to correct them. Back when I ran in those circles I was amazed at the lack of knowledge and abilities when it came to a piece of gear that could prove so critical but for some may never be needed in a career. A deputy in the next county over didn't care for his sidearm to the degree that he didn't realize it had rusted to the point of being inoperable until a qualifying day. Fully a third of the people I went to skills with had never handled a firearm until our first range day. Over half had never held or fired a handgun. Again, I'm not criticizing them, they're just normal people that weren't interested in that small yet potentially critical element of law enforcement.
 
Anyone got a theory on the UFO Drones flying over New Jersey? Been said that numerous drones are the size of a SUV. Nobody knows who's they are?? They say they are loud.....and I would think people could see them take off or land. Whole story seems goofy to me.

Picatinny Arsenal is located in Morris county. 3400 acre secure military location. They have reported seeing the drones. My theory is they saw them because they launched them as a test....
 
The videos I saw appeared to show lights on the drones. I'm guessing it is some type of military test or some random deer hunting tracking a wounded buck with night vision thermal drone!

I've seen some large drones around here and they appeared to be either spraying or overseeding some large ag fields. If someone flew those around at night, I have no doubt people would be claiming the aliens are coming.
 
The videos I saw appeared to show lights on the drones. I'm guessing it is some type of military test or some random deer hunting tracking a wounded buck with night vision thermal drone!

I've seen some large drones around here and they appeared to be either spraying or overseeding some large ag fields. If someone flew those around at night, I have no doubt people would be claiming the aliens are coming.
Yeah....I thought it odd that they have flashing lights. If they were flying under the cover of darkness.....why would you put flashing lights on 'em? The whole thing is odd.....But nobody claims any knowledge of such things?
 
they appeared to be either spraying or overseeding some large ag fields

That's what I would assume. The beauty of drones and AI is that you can run the drone 24/7 to keep it making money around the clock. Mapping software can allow the navigation system to map the most efficient way to cover a field. They come beck automatically when they need to be reloaded, and usually one guy can run the entire operation.
 
That's what I would assume. The beauty of drones and AI is that you can run the drone 24/7 to keep it making money around the clock. Mapping software can allow the navigation system to map the most efficient way to cover a field. They come beck automatically when they need to be reloaded, and usually one guy can run the entire operation.
What happened to the rule that drones needed to be seen with your naked operating eye, or something to that effect? Have things gotten beyond that level?
 
That's what I would assume. The beauty of drones and AI is that you can run the drone 24/7 to keep it making money around the clock. Mapping software can allow the navigation system to map the most efficient way to cover a field. They come beck automatically when they need to be reloaded, and usually one guy can run the entire operation.
That would sure come in handy when a guy needs to get something seeded and it's too wet to drive equipment.
 
Yeah....I thought it odd that they have flashing lights. If they were flying under the cover of darkness.....why would you put flashing lights on 'em? The whole thing is odd.....But nobody claims any knowledge of such things?

It's probably the law. Aircraft and towers need flashing lights to prevent collisions.
 
What happened to the rule that drones needed to be seen with your naked operating eye, or something to that effect? Have things gotten beyond that level?

You can see it because of the flashing lights.
 
I think you're giving law enforcement a bit more credit than they deserve. The information about it being a Station 6 or similar firearm came from NYPD. I'm not trying to criticize my friends in law enforcement, but we need to realize that they are just people too. Many are as equally uniformed as the rest of the public when it comes to firearms. Certainly there were officers that knew better than what the top brass was saying, but it wasn't their place to correct them. Back when I ran in those circles I was amazed at the lack of knowledge and abilities when it came to a piece of gear that could prove so critical but for some may never be needed in a career. A deputy in the next county over didn't care for his sidearm to the degree that he didn't realize it had rusted to the point of being inoperable until a qualifying day. Fully a third of the people I went to skills with had never handled a firearm until our first range day. Over half had never held or fired a handgun. Again, I'm not criticizing them, they're just normal people that weren't interested in that small yet potentially critical element of law enforcement.
Skeeter all of that post was just me speculating, I believe you but I am a little disappointed. I don't care that they do not know all guns but to send out bad info is just unprofessional. Trying to keep information flowing should also not be the main goal, seems like whatever you are telling the public you are telling the perp which could hinder your success. If NYPD is this lose makes me wonder about my local small town boys. Also seemed dangerous and unnecessary to drive 90 miles per hour for 300 miles to question someone who is not going anywhere locked in a cell.
 
I fear that everything about this case needs to be seriously questioned when a major part of it is BS. Pisses me off that false data is so easily spread by what is supposed to be trusted media like the AP.

My dad and I were just discussing that this morning. I sad I wouldn't trust an article about this case for at least a week or two, if ever. Journalists are so preoccupied with being the first to break a story or a detail of a story that they will publish anything and everything they hear sometimes. It will be a while before the facts get filtered out of the bulltwaddle.
 
There’s an interesting article about Ray Epps in the Gateway Pundit . A young guy with no criminal record was told by Ray Epps that Trump was going to speak at the US Capitol.

Big mistake to listen to a FED, paid by Democrats as now he faces 2 years in prison for a non violent offense.

The FBI drew guns on his wife and kids in a raid . Good riddance to the FBI leadership, so sad what is going on!
 
Do people still believe things said by the mainstream media? If it's on TV or in formal print, I just assume it's propaganda.

This overthrow in Syria is quite the victory for Israel. They used american dollars to buy Al quaeda and use them to push Asaad out. And now Christians will be getting slaughtered en masse by terrorists hired and funded by the american taxpayer. And a few years down the road, we'll probably go in there and pretend to have a war with them.
 
Do people still believe things said by the mainstream media? If it's on TV or in formal print, I just assume it's propaganda.

This overthrow in Syria is quite the victory for Israel. They used american dollars to buy Al quaeda and use them to push Asaad out. And now Christians will be getting slaughtered en masse by terrorists hired and funded by the american taxpayer. And a few years down the road, we'll probably go in there and pretend to have a war with them.
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
It's a great book and speaks about actions like this from the US government, normally because an industry or corporation wanted to go in there and get some raw materials, but not always.
 
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
It's a great book and speaks about actions like this from the US government, normally because an industry or corporation wanted to go in there and get some raw materials, but not always.
Thanks, I'm always looking for new books to read. I just nabbed a copy of ebay.
 
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