Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

[Westwind]

“Spread some democracy..” haha!

I know!!! I KNOW! But wouldn’t it be awesome if it turned out that way and we did some good! (I’m an optimist.)

 

[Barndog56]

 

[Westwind]

Well, it IS the conspiracy theory thread, lol

 

[H20fwler]

Here’s my conspiracy theory debunk for the day;

That the economy is so bad…really?

GDP at 4.3
My 401K ended up at 18% return and is Oprah stupid.
I’m paying $2 for eggs
And I just filled up my car for $2.13





Economy is definitely getting better IMO.

 

[Telemark]

Interesting take.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007429683713917147

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The real reason the US is invading Venezuela goes back to a deal Henry Kissinger made with Saudi Arabia in 1974.

And I'm going to explain why this is actually about the SURVIVAL of the US dollar itself.

Not drugs. Not terrorism. Not "democracy."

This is about the petrodollar system that has kept America the dominant economic power for 50 years.

And Venezuela just threatened to end it.

Here's what really just happened:

Venezuela has 303 billion barrels of proven oil reserves.

The largest on Earth.

More than Saudi Arabia.

20% of the entire world's oil.

But here's the part that matters:

Venezuela was actively selling that oil in Chinese yuan. Not dollars.

In 2018, Venezuela announced it would "free itself from the dollar."

They started accepting yuan, euros, rubles, anything BUT dollars for oil.

They were petitioning to join BRICS.

They were building direct payment channels with China that bypass SWIFT entirely.

And they were sitting on enough oil to fund de-dollarization for decades.

Why does this matter?

Because the entire American financial system is built on one thing:

The petrodollar.

In 1974, Henry Kissinger made a deal with Saudi Arabia:

All oil sold globally must be priced in US dollars.

In exchange, America provides military protection.

This single agreement created artificial demand for dollars worldwide.

Every country on Earth needs dollars to buy oil.

This lets America print unlimited money while other countries work for it.

It funds the military. The welfare state. The deficit spending.

The petrodollar is more important to US hegemony than aircraft carriers.

And there's a pattern of what happens to leaders who challenge it:

2000: Saddam Hussein announces Iraq will sell oil in euros instead of dollars.

2003: Invaded. Regime change. Iraq's oil immediately switched back to dollars. Saddam lynched.

The WMDs were never found because they never existed.

2009: Gaddafi proposes a gold-backed African currency called the "gold dinar" for oil trade.

Hillary Clinton's own leaked emails confirm this was the PRIMARY reason for intervention.

Email quote: "This gold was intended to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar."

2011: NATO bombs Libya. Gaddafi sodomized and murdered. Libya now has open slave markets.

"We came, we saw, he died!" Clinton laughed on camera.

The gold dinar died with him.

And now Maduro.

With FIVE TIMES more oil than Saddam and Gaddafi combined.

Actively selling in yuan.

Building payment systems outside dollar control.

Petitioning to join BRICS.

Partnered with China, Russia, and Iran.

The three countries leading global de-dollarization.

This isn't coincidence.

Challenge the petrodollar. Get regime changed.

Every. Single. Time.

Stephen Miller (US homeland security advisor) literally said it out loud two weeks ago:

"American sweat, ingenuity and toil created the oil industry in Venezuela. Its tyrannical expropriation was the largest recorded theft of American wealth and property."

He's not hiding it.

They're claiming Venezuelan oil BELONGS to America because US companies developed it 100 years ago.

By this logic, every nationalized resource in history was "theft."

But here's the DEEPER problem:

The petrodollar is already dying.

Russia sells oil in rubles and yuan since Ukraine.

Saudi Arabia is openly discussing yuan settlements.

Iran has been trading in non-dollar currencies for years.

China built CIPS, their own alternative to SWIFT with 4,800 banks in 185 countries.

BRICS is actively building payment systems that bypass the dollar entirely.

The mBridge project lets central banks settle trades instantly in local currencies.

Venezuela joining BRICS with 303 billion barrels of oil would accelerate this exponentially.

That's what this invasion is really about.

Not stopping drugs. Venezuela accounts for less than 1% of US cocaine.

Not terrorism. There's zero evidence Maduro runs a "terror organization."

Not democracy. The US supports Saudi Arabia, which has zero elections.

This is about maintaining a 50-year-old agreement that lets America print money while the world works for it.

And the consequences are terrifying:

Russia, China, and Iran are already denouncing this as "armed aggression."

China is Venezuela's biggest oil customer. They're losing billions.

BRICS nations are watching a country get invaded for trading outside the dollar.

Every nation considering de-dollarization just got the message:

Challenge the dollar and we will bomb you.

But here's the problem...

That message might accelerate de-dollarization, not stop it.

Because now every country in the Global South knows what happens if you threaten dollar hegemony.

And they're realizing the only protection is to move FASTER.

The timing is insane too:

January 3rd, 2026. Venezuela invaded. Maduro captured.

January 3rd, 1990. Panama invaded. Noriega captured.

36 years apart. Almost to the day.

Same playbook. Same "drug trafficking" excuse.

Same real reason: control of strategic resources and trade routes.

History doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

What happens next:

Trump's press conference at Mar-a-Lago sets the narrative.

US oil companies are already lined up. Politico reported they've been approached about "returning to Venezuela."

The opposition will be installed. Oil will flow in dollars again.

Venezuela becomes another Iraq. Another Libya.

But here's what nobody's asking:

What happens when you can no longer bomb your way to dollar dominance?

When China has enough economic leverage to retaliate?

When BRICS controls 40% of global GDP and says "no more dollars"?

When the world realizes the petrodollar is maintained by violence?

America just showed its hand.

The question is whether the rest of the world folds or calls the bluff.

Because this invasion is an admission that the dollar can no longer compete on its own merits.

When you have to bomb countries to keep them using your currency, the currency is already dying.

Venezuela isn't the beginning.

It's the desperate end.

What do you think?

No. He has a few facts right, but his conclusions are wrong, probably because he can't do math.

Venezuela hardly produces any oil. Less than 1% of global production. This is the reason they currently have the largest reserves, they haven't been able to produce any significant amount for decades, so it just sits there.

Venezuela went from #5 in the world to #1 in proven reserves in the last 20 years because they keep finding oil, but they can't pump it.

Maduro could sell his tiny percentage of oil production to China for yuan, gold, or wampum. It wouldn't make a difference for the US dollar. The reason is that no one else wants yuan, rubles, or any of the BRICS currencies.

The biggest threat to the US dollar right now is Trump's ridiculous tariff policies.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007551366571704556

 

[Brian662]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007551366571704556

Nobody controls him, he's a billionaire!

 

[Telemark]

I think we are being lied to on the Venezuela drug boats. I think it has something to do with Russia, or possibly oil.

The amount of drugs coming via Venzuela is a drop in the bucket, and I can't imagine Maduro really cares about some drug boats, even if he's making money from them. Plus, you don't need a carrier battle group to blow up a few drug boats.

The whole thing seems like a flimsy excuse to position a fleet in the Caribbean for some other reason. Maybe they want to take down the Maduro regime and install a new one that will give us favorable terms on oil. Maybe they're trying to counter Russian influence in the region. I can't figure it out yet, but there must be an ulterior motive.

Well I was on track, but it seems there is also a China connection and possible Israel connection. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. There are a lot of factors that will be difficult to predict. I really don't want another drawn-out 20 year trillion dollar war with an occupation force in a foreign country, but the armed "colectivos" make that a serious possibility.

 

[T-Max]

Well I was on track, but it seems there is also a China connection and possible Israel connection. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. There are a lot of factors that will be difficult to predict. I really don't want another drawn-out 20 year trillion dollar war with an occupation force in a foreign country, but the armed "colectivos" make that a serious possibility.

He campaigned on “no new wars,” so there won’t be any. He said so.


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[Telemark]

He campaigned on “no new wars,” so there won’t be any. He said so.


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I hope not, but time will tell.

I think the China connection might be more significant than we realize. Apparently there was a Chinese delegation there to meet with Maduro when he got snatched, and the vast majority of Venezuelan oil goes to China.

This move has the potential to be incredibly beneficial to the region, but also could be devastating if it doesn't go well. Unfortunately, the US government has a poor track record when it comes to regime change going smoothly.

 

[Brian662]

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I’d rather go through this trouble to take control of oil than to save some cokeheads. Right or wrong at least the upstanding citizens have the potential to possibly benefit…right or wrong.

 

[Westwind]

It’s not just that they have oil, it’s that Chavez/Maduro nationalized the infrastructure that American companies built/owned and trashed it. This should be a very well off country but instead they got socialism and the ensuing prosperity that goes with it.

Politicizing the industry, failing to properly govern. An idealist might hope things could go better there in the future.

 

[Westwind]

Marco Rubio was really good on meet the press. That brother looks like he needs some sleep though.

Man his closing comments on Cuba were interesting.

 

[BenA]

We got "samples" of the oil from Venezuela by taking a couple tankers for free. Sent it a couple companies to make sure our refining capabilities are still right for sour, heavy oil. Turns out, we're still setup great to handle it. They said, we'll take all we can get. Trump said, here, hold my beer.

 

[Foggy47]

The voting machines used in the 2020 election were produced in Venezuela so obvious isn't it?









PROVE ME WRONG?

 

[SD51555]

I don't think our media, corporations, banks, defense contractors, drug companies, and government agencies are full of Venezuelans. We're not cutting multi-billion dollar checks to Venezuela every two weeks and using our nations wealth to kill all of Venezuela's neighbors and help them annex land in other countries. Venezuela is full of Christians, and that is a major problem that our state department and pentagon will have to tackle.

 

[H20fwler]

Can this be real?