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Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?
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Brian662
5 year old buck +
It's also important to remember that this scandal was exposed already in 2022 and prosecutions have already been made. The recent video and "reporting" didn't do anything but bring it into the forefront...again. Conveniently? Probably depends on how selectively outraged one chooses to be so they're distracted from the real prize. IMO
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
I think it is widely known that if you try to run over a law enforcement officer you might get shot.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
I disagree. It looks bad for the woman who tried to resist arrest and run over a police officer in doing so. It's standard for any law enforcement agency and considered a reasonable threat in the CCW class I took.
lol, i got the opportunity to shut a liberal up last night. went bowling with my wife and some of her teacher friends. (haven't bowled in a long time, and my damn thumbs sore as shit today). anyway, it was a decent time until this idiot biotch brought up politics and her hate for Trump. I didn't want any part of it, and I thought I did a helluva job keeping my distance and not engaging her. (for the first 5 minutes)
At the end, she started on trump about "breaking laws" ordering boats to be bombed, and capturing Maduro. Someone said he's not breaking any laws, and she turned around and looked me right in the eye (like i was the one who said that, and i didn't) and said "he's a killer, he bombs boats with not one shred of evidence of drugs, killing innocent people, and he ordered maduro killed, but they didn't follow his orders"
My wife, sitting next to me, heard me take in a breath, and says "oh boy, here we go", lol. Now, all of them are looking at me, and the funny thing is that most all of them were actually wanting me to tear her a new one.
I just said, "look, we just sent a tiny group of elite guys into another country, invaded this countries military base, where the leader of their world lived, and walked him, and his wifes ass out in handcuffs. If Trump was to order him killed, they'd have done it without question. Do you have any idea how much intelligence we had to pull that arrest off? That's called jedi-level intelligence lady, and if you can wrap your mind around that fact, then you'll understand that we knew exactly what illegal drugs were on those boats, exactly how much was on them, and exactly where they were headed, before we dropped any bombs." I waited a couple of seconds for her response, and all I got from her was a death stare, and everyone else was silent. so i said "look, we're fricking bowling here, so how about we reset, let me go get a few pitchers of beer for everyone, and when I get back we'll just stick with bowling talk and have a better time. Now, what brand do you want, and I'll get you some"
She says "I didn't ask for anything from you"
"Sigh, suit yourself, I'll be back with the beer." Got back, and she stayed, but drank no beer, and sullied up and quiet. I got a little more animated than normal to spite her, and the rest of us had a great time.
During this whole time, you know what's in the back of my mind? All those meme's on the "laughter is best medicine" thread that I've seen were running rampant in my mind, because this overweight biotch is acting like the poster child for all those meme's about the libtards. It felt like deja-vu.
I know this wasn't a great smack-down, but it was real, and a small victory. Wife appreciated me keeping my cool, and later that night it paid off, lol.
At the end, she started on trump about "breaking laws" ordering boats to be bombed, and capturing Maduro. Someone said he's not breaking any laws, and she turned around and looked me right in the eye (like i was the one who said that, and i didn't) and said "he's a killer, he bombs boats with not one shred of evidence of drugs, killing innocent people, and he ordered maduro killed, but they didn't follow his orders"
My wife, sitting next to me, heard me take in a breath, and says "oh boy, here we go", lol. Now, all of them are looking at me, and the funny thing is that most all of them were actually wanting me to tear her a new one.
I just said, "look, we just sent a tiny group of elite guys into another country, invaded this countries military base, where the leader of their world lived, and walked him, and his wifes ass out in handcuffs. If Trump was to order him killed, they'd have done it without question. Do you have any idea how much intelligence we had to pull that arrest off? That's called jedi-level intelligence lady, and if you can wrap your mind around that fact, then you'll understand that we knew exactly what illegal drugs were on those boats, exactly how much was on them, and exactly where they were headed, before we dropped any bombs." I waited a couple of seconds for her response, and all I got from her was a death stare, and everyone else was silent. so i said "look, we're fricking bowling here, so how about we reset, let me go get a few pitchers of beer for everyone, and when I get back we'll just stick with bowling talk and have a better time. Now, what brand do you want, and I'll get you some"
She says "I didn't ask for anything from you"
"Sigh, suit yourself, I'll be back with the beer." Got back, and she stayed, but drank no beer, and sullied up and quiet. I got a little more animated than normal to spite her, and the rest of us had a great time.
During this whole time, you know what's in the back of my mind? All those meme's on the "laughter is best medicine" thread that I've seen were running rampant in my mind, because this overweight biotch is acting like the poster child for all those meme's about the libtards. It felt like deja-vu.
I know this wasn't a great smack-down, but it was real, and a small victory. Wife appreciated me keeping my cool, and later that night it paid off, lol.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
I’m not saying we are a socialist country but…
H20fwler
5 year old buck +
I disagree with you, that lady was not trying to run over anybody. I make that conclusion from watching the video, has nothing to do with politics in my eyes.
Brian662
5 year old buck +
I don't see any way you can watch that video and come to the conclusion she was trying to run him over. She simply wasn't.
Was the agent right to feel threatened and likely lacked training to discern the difference in the moment, absolutely.
Should she have tried to flee from the officers, absolutely not.
In an ideal world would that result in her getting killed, of course not. Best not to put yourself in this situation, IMO.
Was the agent right to feel threatened and likely lacked training to discern the difference in the moment, absolutely.
Should she have tried to flee from the officers, absolutely not.
In an ideal world would that result in her getting killed, of course not. Best not to put yourself in this situation, IMO.
Westwind
5 year old buck +
Shooting into a moving car is almost always a bad idea.
It does not keep the driver from striking you and it didn’t in this case.
It screams lack of training and lack of judgement.
I hate what that woman was doing but she should not have been shot.
I hate all of this. Every single bit of it.
It does not keep the driver from striking you and it didn’t in this case.
It screams lack of training and lack of judgement.
I hate what that woman was doing but she should not have been shot.
I hate all of this. Every single bit of it.
I totally agree and I am not saying she is right but the only way that trigger pull is justified if he thought his life was endangered and it simply was not unless she had a gun pointed out the window. He didn't even react like his life was endangered, he stood and watched the car turn then he pulled the trigger. I hate it too, but not as much as her family hates it, the man should be suspended and a neutral knowledgable group should decide how to handle his fate. I am not fighting for her or him but the American system, which I still believe is the best in the world
Brian662
5 year old buck +
I feel like if I were in his shoes it would have happened too fast for me to say one way or another if my life was in danger. As it turns out it wasn't, but that's a very difficult call to make in that situation.
We have the hindsight of video evidence to clearly see she wasn't trying to run him over, but if you're standing in front of the vehicle (not standard for a LEO to take that position) you couldn't possibly have made that decision in those split seconds.
Mistakes were made by both parties but I have to agree that she cost herself her life by the actions she took. It's tragic, but true.
Brian662
5 year old buck +
He certainly made mistakes too. It's reasonable to feel bad for all parties involved.
hillrunner
5 year old buck +
She wasn't trying to run him over or kill him but she was definitely trying to provoke a reaction. Her wife was out of the vehicle filming. It seems obvious to me they were trying to get a reaction that would go viral. I guess they got it. Is an awful situation but she put herself in it and the officers life is likely ruined as well.
She wasn't trying to run him over or kill him. I agree
Why do you believe that she was not trying to run him over? I see no way to prove intent either way. However, I can say that when she put the vehicle in drive and accelerated the wheels were pointed at the agent. If the wheels had immediately gotten traction instead of spinning she would have had a very good chance of hitting him more squarely. Something similar can be said about the agent. If his feet had gripped the pavement when he was hit, instead of sliding, he would have had a much greater chance of being run over. I can't prove her intent but can safely state that she used deadly force.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
100%. You know how to not get shot in that scenario…listen to the agent with his gun pointed at you. zero sympathy. This stuff has gotten out of control. One side is enforcing the law, which is essential to maintaining a society, and the other side is sewing chaos.
