Clover fertilizer question
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bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
Never did foliar, but have broadcasted fertilizer on established plots.
On my junk log landing spots i do that.
80-100 lbs/acre triple 15 and 500 lbs/ acre pelletized lime. Try to avoid doing it mid june to late july.
I went from 80% bare ground to 2ft tall oats in 3 years.
On my junk log landing spots i do that.
80-100 lbs/acre triple 15 and 500 lbs/ acre pelletized lime. Try to avoid doing it mid june to late july.
I went from 80% bare ground to 2ft tall oats in 3 years.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
I’ve done a little plot boost with micronutrients but never true foliar
RGrizzzz
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PlotBoost looks like just 1-0-0 with some micronutrients. Antler King's clover fuel is 0-0-28. I'm probably looking for something with P and K.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Let us know how it goes. Always been interested in foliar sprays.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Man the droughts have been bad here too. I didn’t get to plant fall crops till first of November because it didn’t rain till then. They are doing well now but looked awful all during deer season.
TreeDaddy
5 year old buck +
Well just to update everyone, I have 1 ton of Magpril I will be picking up on Friday.
Had a guy from another hunting forum that is based in South Carolina tell me about it. He works for Meherrin Ag and Chemical.
Its a new product that is magnesium and calcium. 250 lbs is the equivalent to 1 ton of ag lime. It starts working in as little as two weeks and lasts 2-3 years.
It is only sold in 1 ton super sacks. We will see how it does but the product is REALLY taking off
Had a guy from another hunting forum that is based in South Carolina tell me about it. He works for Meherrin Ag and Chemical.
Its a new product that is magnesium and calcium. 250 lbs is the equivalent to 1 ton of ag lime. It starts working in as little as two weeks and lasts 2-3 years.
It is only sold in 1 ton super sacks. We will see how it does but the product is REALLY taking off
RGrizzzz
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This stuff?
www.omya.com
It looks like it's more for correcting magnesium deficiency vs low pH.
The math just doesn't work out on products that say you only need a fraction of the product vs lime. It's a similar concept to this.
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Omya Magprill | Omya Agriculture
High-efficiency magnesium and calcium nutrition and soil conditioning.
It looks like it's more for correcting magnesium deficiency vs low pH.
The math just doesn't work out on products that say you only need a fraction of the product vs lime. It's a similar concept to this.
Beware of Liquid Calcium Products
Do the math and consider the chemistry before investing in a liquid calcium product for your soil.
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omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Agree. There is no free lunch.This stuff?
Omya Magprill | Omya Agriculture
High-efficiency magnesium and calcium nutrition and soil conditioning.
It looks like it's more for correcting magnesium deficiency vs low pH.
The math just doesn't work out on products that say you only need a fraction of the product vs lime. It's a similar concept to this.
Beware of Liquid Calcium Products
Do the math and consider the chemistry before investing in a liquid calcium product for your soil.
I do think these products can help one crop get going which can get the regenerative process going. But there is no way they do long-term corrections on soil pH.
So my choices were do nothing since I can't find ANY ag lime, I have been looking for 3 months. Or try this product that was offered to get things started.
So I opted for getting things started. In a perfect world I would choose the AG lime and spread it myself. But it just doesn't seem like that is meant to be this year.
So I opted for getting things started. In a perfect world I would choose the AG lime and spread it myself. But it just doesn't seem like that is meant to be this year.
RGrizzzz
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No one is faulting your choice. Your previous post rings more of marketing buzz than specificity. It looks like a solid product for mag deficiency but not ideal for raising pH sufficiently. There are a lot of beginners out there that are buying products they don't fully understand. We're just trying to help make sure folks understand what they need vs what they're buying. At one point, I was in that place too. Communities like this help educate us all.
Definitely didn't mean it that way. I am hoping to use this product this year, and revisit the soil test and lime application again in 6 months. Hoping then I can find bulk ag lime available then. Basically using this in a pinch
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
What’s price of that product? You can get a pallet of simple pellet lime that will do the same. I would compare the prices.
Reading about the product and its sister calcprill it looks like most pellet lime.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Pallet of Pelletized Limestone – Squier Lumber & Hardware
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
It looks like a weak dolomitic Pell lime. That’s the most powerful pH raiser pound for pound.
Good news is, you have a high buffer pH. Probably only gonna take a half ton per acre to get in the strike zone. Don’t put on any more than you need though. It’s gonna make your calcium / magnesium ratio even more out of whack. I don’t think you’re in any trouble, just don’t go buck wild.
How many acres are you dealing with here?
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Good news is, you have a high buffer pH. Probably only gonna take a half ton per acre to get in the strike zone. Don’t put on any more than you need though. It’s gonna make your calcium / magnesium ratio even more out of whack. I don’t think you’re in any trouble, just don’t go buck wild.
How many acres are you dealing with here?
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All combined about 7 acres, but it is split up and multiple soil samples were pulled for that reason.
Can you explain the buffer ph and what it means/ does? Explain it like you are explaining it to a 7 year old
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Buffer pH is a factor to help determine how much lime is needed to go from one pH to another.All combined about 7 acres, but it is split up and multiple soil samples were pulled for that reason.
Can you explain the buffer ph and what it means/ does? Explain it like you are explaining it to a 7 year old
High buffer pH: Easy to adjust pH with a small amount of lime (sandy soils)
Low buffer pH: Harder to adjust pH, takes lots of lime (heavy clay soils)
We had the same trouble up by my property. We could not get anyone to even call back. I had my friend call and try also. He had 10 acres to lime and they wouldn't get back to them . The first thing the asked i"s this for a food plot." I finally got one place that answered the phone. They said they were to busy so I asked if I could have just a truckload of lime dumped off. Nope to much to ask I guess. I finally got a trucking outfit 60 miles away to bring me a 18 ton load. I paid a premium because it was over 50 miles but was still way ahead of then buying all pelitized lime. It worked great. I just maintain it with some pelitized now.
