White Birch Farm
5 year old buck +
Which part of the difference between common with specific varieties and “across the board” did you not understand? Lol.
2021 Scion Exchange
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lol dude. I know your kind. Northeasterner. Not worth arguing with. Have a great weekend
White Birch Farm
5 year old buck +
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While I realize you were trying to start an argument with me from the moment you implied my first response was “anecdotal” (lacking in sound basis), you are trying to argue facts about rootstock. Yet, for whatever reason, you have not even provided any facts or even personal experience to support your claims?
Perhaps you can explain to everyone why another extremely respected Northeasterner, who grows the trees a huge number of members here are dying to buy the moment they come available, switched from growing his wildlife on B118 to dolgo?
While I realize you were trying to start an argument with me from the moment you implied my first response was “anecdotal” (lacking in sound basis), you are trying to argue facts about rootstock. Yet, for whatever reason, you have not even provided any facts or even personal experience to support your claims?
I had calendared getting out this evening to prune some apple trees and then figuring out what scions I have to offer, but in the words of my wintertime idol Yukon Cornelius (of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer movie fame), "It ain't a fit night out for man or beast". Only one more week of polar vortex here, I hope!
White Birch Farm
5 year old buck +
I got about 50 trees done in the snow and cold last weekend. It was actually very enjoyable, despite the moisture.
(Apple, Pear, Persimmon, Chestnut)
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AvidSlacker
A good 3 year old buck
Folks,
I am getting Liberty apple scion already (thanks, gunfun13!). I am still looking for Belle de Boskoop and William's Pride (1 stick of each). I promised some Zima Khurma persimmon (cold-hardy American/Asian hybrid) to someone already but still have some more if anyone wants it.
Thanks!
I am getting Liberty apple scion already (thanks, gunfun13!). I am still looking for Belle de Boskoop and William's Pride (1 stick of each). I promised some Zima Khurma persimmon (cold-hardy American/Asian hybrid) to someone already but still have some more if anyone wants it.
Thanks!
White Birch Farm
5 year old buck +
Let me know if you strike out on Belle de Boskoop.
I have some grafted on wild crabs. I can go out and check to see if I already pruned them, or have useful wood left, if no one else has any.
AvidSlacker
A good 3 year old buck
Thanks, sure, will keep you posted.
chickenlittle
5 year old buck +
Ugh. Why mess up a thread about sharing scionwood with a pissing match?
Charles Clear
5 year old buck +
I have some Pear Scion I can trade. Luscious, Keiffer, Galloway, and a little bit of scion from Butt pear also. Looking for Haralson and any other good deer sized crab apples.
R.E. Gould
5 year old buck +
I've got some Williams Pride scions available, and am interested in that persimmon for a small American persimmon seedling I have. Is grafting those like grafting apples?
R.E. Gould
5 year old buck +
I have the Black Oxford, and am interested in the Galarina and Pristine. Here's the list of what I have available (in varying degrees of abundance) if there's anything else you're interested in:
Åkerö
Alexander
Ashmead's Kernel
Baldwin
Black Gilliflower
Black Oxford
Blue Pearmain
Calville Blanc
Chenango Strawberry
Chestnut
Cox's Orange Pippin
Egremont Russet
Esopus Spitzenberg
Frostbite
Golden Russet
Goldrush
Gray Pearmain
Greening (RI)
Hawkeye
Honeycrisp
Hurlbut
Kandil Sinap
Keepsake
King of Tompkins County
Knobbed Russet
Liberty
Macoun
Newtown Pippin
Nodhead
Pomme Gris
Porter
Prima
St. Lawrence
Summer Rambo
Sweet Sixteen
Tolman Sweet
Trailman
Wagener
Westfield Seek-No-Further
Wolf River
Zabergau Reinette
AvidSlacker
A good 3 year old buck
Fantastic! I'll PM you my address and please PM me yours. As for grafting, I am not sure how similar it's to apples (I will be doing apple grafting for the first time this season!) but when I bought my Zima Khurma scion from Cliff England (a wonderful guy by the way), he (a) told me that persimmon should be grafted when the temperature is 70-85 degrees and the tree is at least partly leafed out and (b) sent me instructional videos of himself doing the grafting (see links below). I followed his instructions and the graft took from the first try. The only thing I did do in addition (because he told this to me separately) is I "bled the tree", that is, made a ~3-inch vertical slash on the trunk next to the ground -- this is apparently to allow excessive sap to flow out. Anyway, here are the videos he sent me that I followed:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzphrleql4jouwk/2017-06-29 12.31.02.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/inu5dr822pteflu/2017-06-28 20.12.14.mp4?dl=0
Please note there is some controversy regarding whether one should graft persimmon to branches or multi-graft them. So if that's your intention, check the Internet before you decide. I grafted mine on the rootstock directly so my entire tree is Zima Khurma now.
AvidSlacker
A good 3 year old buck
Sorry, forgot to note couple other bits of instruction from Cliff: "you graft when the temps is about 70 to 85 degrees and the trees have at least partly leafed out and it during a dryer period usually in Late May thru the first week of July, But no latter or the grafted tree will not have enough time to harden off before the freeze". I think I grafted mine in the beginning of June. And, regarding the bleeding: "This is only necessary in walnuts and Pecans it is rarely an issue with persimmons and Pawpaws but you will know once you cut off the top of the tree you need to make an observation of whether or not the sap is pooling or flowing heavy more so it is a problem if it has been raining like it has here for the last 2 days and then only then would you cut vertical slash up or down the base of the seedling about 2 inches from the base up about 6 inches that’s all just a bleeder and the tree will heal over in the same summer"
R.E. Gould
5 year old buck +
Thanks! Very helpful... glad you put all this detail here as I definitely would have just grafted it like an apple. Sent you a PM.
AvidSlacker
A good 3 year old buck
No one else has responded about Belle De Boskoop, so yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could check when you have a chance. If you do have some to send (I only need 1 stick, perhaps two in case I screw up), I'd be happy to pay for S&H since I am not sending you anything back. Thanks again!
My scion collecting plans have met yet another setback. A judge here in Wisconsin ordered the DNR to hold a wolf hunt before the end of this month. The application period closed Saturday. When I woke up this morning, I discovered that I had drawn a tag. I have through this Saturday to hunt. I'm not likely to see any late-hanging apple trees where I am heading, but I will take my nippers along just in case.
blueKYstream
5 year old buck +
I'm hoping to get some persimmon scions, mulberry cuttings, perhaps another late-dropping pear or sawtooth acorns. My plans to buy apple/pear rootstock this year might have been put on hold until after we build our house. Scions I have:
Apples:
Liberty
Enterprise
Old Fashioned Winesap
Arkansas Black
Yates
Keener Seedling
Pears:
Kiefer
Dr. Deer
Moonglow
Becton
Gallaway
Plumblee
Korean Giant
McKelvey
Apples:
Liberty
Enterprise
Old Fashioned Winesap
Arkansas Black
Keener Seedling
Pears:
Kiefer
Dr. Deer
Moonglow
Becton
Gallaway
Plumblee
Korean Giant
McKelvey
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silver_yummies
5 year old buck +
Apparently you’ll get your weekend back to prune those trees! Wolf quota filled fast and season ends tomorrow already.
AvidSlacker
A good 3 year old buck
I still have some Zima Khurma persimmon scions. I described them in one of my earlier posts -- take a look and let me know if you want them. Cheers!
