What happens after EAB?

[farmlegend]

Perhaps some from Michigan can comment. They had EAB over 20 yrs ago there. Kinda one of the first spots in Midwest.

Ground zero for the EAB was somewhere in western Wayne County, where I reside. Allegedly from crates made from chinese ash, likely opened in Livonia/Westland/Plymouth/Canton area. There were some that thought it could be contained, but that quickly proved impossible, as the borers are able to fly. That and the countless people that hauled ash firewood to burn at their cottages throughout the state, in spite of the public warnings(as if the average Joe can ID an ash log).

Very unfortunate. At my farm(60 miles WSW of ground zero), it devastated the ash quickly. I may have even had a few pumpkin ash (really huge trees that I later read were found in Hillsdale County) that succumbed - obviously impossible to verify after the fact. I did a timber sale in 2003 just as the EAB issue was starting up over there, and sold hundreds of ash. Many of the white ash ecotype that grew on my place produced wonderful purple fall foliage that was really striking, something I'll likely never see again.

 

[Brian662]

The green ash at one of my MN properties is all dying now. I need to finish as much of my buckthorn removal as possible before the sky is wide open from the dying ash. Also have to move a redneck blind before some dead ash fall and crush it.

How long have you guys noticed it takes trees to go from damaged to falling over?

 

[rocksnstumps]

Ground zero for the EAB was somewhere in western Wayne County, where I reside. Allegedly from crates made from chinese ash, likely opened in Livonia/Westland/Plymouth/Canton area. There were some that thought it could be contained, but that quickly proved impossible, as the borers are able to fly. That and the countless people that hauled ash firewood to burn at their cottages throughout the state, in spite of the public warnings(as if the average Joe can ID an ash log).

Very unfortunate. At my farm(60 miles WSW of ground zero, it devastated the ash quickly. I may have even had a few pumpkin ash (really huge trees that I later read were found in Hillsdale County) that succumbed - obviously impossible to verify after the fact. I did a timber sale in 2003 just as the EAB issue was starting up over there, and sold hundreds of ash. Many of the white ash ecotype that grew on my place produced wonderful purple fall foliage that was really striking, something I'll likely never see again.

Pumpkin ash. Never heard of that one. Another habitat rabbit hole to crawl down.

I'm sure I'll hear some more impacts where I live on Friday when our annual local woodland owners meeting (WWOA) is happening. But I already know the latest from some traveling down miles of river in my county this summer while fishing or a group kayak adventure. Just groves and groves of green ash dying off last couple years.

Was at my buddy's house yesterday and the woods near his house is pretty swampy and they were taking down over a dozen dying green ash close to the house

My hunting land area just about 40 miles NW is still not showing obvious signs yet but the clock is ticking. Just scattered white ash in that spot

 

[farmlegend]

Pumpkin ash. Never heard of that one. Another habitat rabbit hole to crawl down.

I'm sure I'll hear some more impacts where I live on Friday when our annual local woodland owners meeting (WWOA) is happening. But I already know the latest from some traveling down miles of river in my county this summer while fishing or a group kayak adventure. Just groves and groves of green ash dying off last couple years.

Was at my buddy's house yesterday and the woods near his house is pretty swampy and they were taking down over a dozen dying green ash close to the house

My hunting land area just about 40 miles NW is still not showing obvious signs yet but the clock is ticking. Just scattered white ash in that spot

Fraxinus profunda (Pumpkin ash) - Michigan Natural Features Inventory

mnfi.anr.msu.edu

Generally found in seasonally wet areas. A large tree, usually featuring swelling at the base. I had a few that fit this description, and they were around 32" dbh.

A pic contained in the link below of the MO state champion.

Weiterleitungshinweis

 

[farmlegend]

The green ash at one of my MN properties is all dying now. I need to finish as much of my buckthorn removal as possible before the sky is wide open from the dying ash. Also have to move a redneck blind before some dead ash fall and crush it.

How long have you guys noticed it takes trees to go from damaged to falling over?

Highly variable. Anywhere from three to eighteen years. I had one big one that died around 2005 that fell over in 2023. I had to abandon tree stands because they were imperiled by big dead ash trees.

Oddly, there’s a big dead ash that died a few years before the EAB arrived, from other causes, right on my north boundary. It’s still upright 25 years after dying.