Spring Appearance of Fall Planted Clover

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Buehler did your rye germinate last fall or this spring.

It germinated last fall but was pretty much ate to the ground as it's a small plot. Much like the Wind Gypsy's photo, it's getting a lot of attention right now.

 

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Many of the white clovers like durana tend to prefer clay soil over sandy.

I suggest you give plain old medium red or even some crimson clover a try. Crimson clover is not too well liked by deer, but in poor soils it is good to have something that is not eaten to death. A good shot of 2,4D would close to wipe out the clover.

I planted some milpa seed mix from green cover. I saw some clovers doing well that i did not recognize at camp, zone 3 sandy soil. Almost junk sand spots. Milpa has persian clover in it. Aslike might be ok too.

Plantain is a chickory like plant that does well in poor soils. I have it at camp in high traffic areas, like the camp lawn and parking lot. Deer n snowshoe hare love it.

MY plan at camp is to let the weeds win. I will plant rye and oats, but let the weeds be until mid august or so. Then one year I mow or knock it down and the next I use roundup. Always plant small grains, a few different clovers, and a small amount of brassicas like 1-2lb an acre. Clovers are about 8lb and acre and grains are about 80lb. Uusually 2-3 parts rye 1 part oats. I get wheat dirt cheap even sometimes free, so I sometimes add a 1/2 part to the mix. Wheat needs to be in the ground more, but can make it some no till years. I have a nice tow behind set of discs for the ATV, so might be more min till now.

 

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You still watching this thread Joe?

Many of the white clovers like durana tend to prefer clay soil over sandy.

I suggest you give plain old medium red or even some crimson clover a try. Crimson clover is not too well liked by deer, but in poor soils it is good to have something that is not eaten to death. A good shot of 2,4D would close to wipe out the clover.

I planted some milpa seed mix from green cover. I saw some clovers doing well that i did not recognize at camp, zone 3 sandy soil. Almost junk sand spots. Milpa has persian clover in it. Aslike might be ok too.

Plantain is a chickory like plant that does well in poor soils. I have it at camp in high traffic areas, like the camp lawn and parking lot. Deer n snowshoe hare love it.

MY plan at camp is to let the weeds win. I will plant rye and oats, but let the weeds be until mid august or so. Then one year I mow or knock it down and the next I use roundup. Always plant small grains, a few different clovers, and a small amount of brassicas like 1-2lb an acre. Clovers are about 8lb and acre and grains are about 80lb. Uusually 2-3 parts rye 1 part oats. I get wheat dirt cheap even sometimes free, so I sometimes add a 1/2 part to the mix. Wheat needs to be in the ground more, but can make it some no till years. I have a nice tow behind set of discs for the ATV, so might be more min till now.

Absolutely. When I spread pure clay somewhere, white clover was the only thing that would grow at first. A close second for diversity was flax and jap millet. Third would be ragweed and black eyed Susan.


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