I just contacted Pat Howard of Covert from the other forum, seems like a great guy. He sold the 2013 Extreme black 60's at $115/each w/$10 shipping for the entire lot. Of course I bought two for myself and 4 others for some friends. Just got them in the mail today and delivered 3, and literally just got done testing one out in my living room. So far, I love it. It has a in screen viewer (which I have always said I don't need/want, but it is slick...should make setup easier so I don't come back and check and realize it was set too low :oops:), the video is pretty awesome, and pics are crisp at 12 mp. Granted all the testing is in the living room. I will roll the camera on video all day tomorrow and see what kind of activities dog is up to and report back here with results. I have 6 trophy cams, and I am assuming one or two are on the way ou tthis year, time to cycle new ones through and why not at that price!! I went with moultrie m880's as well, but these are comparable/cheaper so I can pretty much guarantee I will brag Covert up and down if the cams work out. Did I add easy as pie to deal with? You also get a free hat! :D