The Whitetail Group

[Brian662]

Do you see mature bucks in these setups? Getting in out without deer being in them is one thing, i'd think they'd peg it as "danger" pretty quick just from human scent going to/from and lingering after a sit if it's right in the middle of all the deer traffic.

Even in (it's all relative) unpressured Iowa, I don't think you could hunt a setup like that more than once every 3 to 4 weeks without serious diminishing returns. I do believe the blind doesn't bother them until they are able to associate the blind with human presence. Use whatever means necessary to not let them see you, hear you, or smell you enough to relate that blind to a human and you can hunt it as often as you want, whether it's in the wide open or not. Just my opinion.

 

[Brian662]

You may be right. My understanding is it was always 2 separate chunks so selling in 2 parcels seems like the easy choice for getting the most $ out of it.

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Selling it in 10 parcels is probably the best way to get the most money out of it, but I agree with you, very easy to split as it stands right now.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Winke started using that damn drone to clear fields on the way out and using it to scan on the way in. Lost a lot of respect for that move. That’s not woodsmanship

 

[Brian662]

Winke started using that damn drone to clear fields on the way out and using it to scan on the way in. Lost a lot of respect for that move. That’s not woodsmanship

How much different is a drone vs laser pointer vs remote coyote call vs pickup truck/UTV? Although I agree with you, I'm not real sure where you draw the line on woodsmanship when moving deer away from a plot.
Me personally, I've used the coyote call and have been picked up from my wife in the UTV.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

How much different is a drone vs laser pointer vs remote coyote call vs pickup truck/UTV? Although I agree with you, I'm not real sure where you draw the line on woodsmanship when moving deer away from a plot.
Me personally, I've used the coyote call and have been picked up from my wife in the UTV.

It’s like pornography…you know it when you see it! Remote controlled stuff with vision capabilities ain’t exactly woodsmanship to me.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

It’s like pornography…you know it when you see it! Remote controlled stuff with vision capabilities ain’t exactly woodsmanship to me.

Its a step worse than cell cams. Surprised that is legal though?

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Its a step worse than cell cams. Surprised that is legal though?

I wrote him an email saying I was a little turned off by that. He didn’t write back.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

I wrote him an email saying I was a little turned off by that. He didn’t write back.

Which video did he use a drone for scouting?

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Which video did he use a drone for scouting?

Not scouting per se. Used it to clear fields when in his box blinds to get out and then flew his field on the walk in. It was the last video this season on his bow hunting series

 

[omicron1792]

Yeah, I know. It’s not like these guys don’t know magnitudes more than me. Just seems obviously less than ideal but I guess if you’re just trying to get newbies shots at young deer and don’t care about burning daytime activity in your plots, have at it.

Lot of guys around here are rigging their utv with observation deck on the back. They then just pull the utv where they want to hunt and use it as they’re blind. My buddy has this exact setup with a canam.

Honestly the more I think about it, a redneck blind is 4k. Do this once, and you can move to wherever you want to hunt.

I’m also thinking more and more that utv sounds don’t scare off deer. I am riding that thing all off season. I drive right up on deer all the time that haven’t run away.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Lot of guys around here are rigging their utv with observation deck on the back. They then just pull the utv where they want to hunt and use it as they’re blind. My buddy has this exact setup with a canam.

Honestly the more I think about it, a redneck blind is 4k. Do this once, and you can move to wherever you want to hunt.

I’m also thinking more and more that utv sounds don’t scare off deer. I am riding that thing all off season. I drive right up on deer all the time that haven’t run away.

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[BenAllgood]

Lot of guys around here are rigging their utv with observation deck on the back. They then just pull the utv where they want to hunt and use it as they’re blind. My buddy has this exact setup with a canam.

Honestly the more I think about it, a redneck blind is 4k. Do this once, and you can move to wherever you want to hunt.

I’m also thinking more and more that utv sounds don’t scare off deer. I am riding that thing all off season. I drive right up on deer all the time that haven’t run away.

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That's been a thing in south Texas for half a century.

 

[SwampCat]

I’m also thinking more and more that utv sounds don’t scare off deer. I am riding that thing all off season. I drive right up on deer all the time that haven’t run away.

Yes - key is to use your SxS more than just deer season. I feel sorry for those folks who think they have to stay off their land outside of deer season so as not to scare of the mature bucks. They are not realizing the full benefits of their land. If I could only use my land for deer hunting, I would have never bought it.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Lot of guys around here are rigging their utv with observation deck on the back. They then just pull the utv where they want to hunt and use it as they’re blind. My buddy has this exact setup with a canam.

Honestly the more I think about it, a redneck blind is 4k. Do this once, and you can move to wherever you want to hunt.

I’m also thinking more and more that utv sounds don’t scare off deer. I am riding that thing all off season. I drive right up on deer all the time that haven’t run away.

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Maybe it works where there is constant UTV traffic. You'd have to pull it behind some pre-set location though, no? I can't imagine a 3+ YO buck seeing an ATV with a human sitting on top during gun season and just continuing to go about their business? Maybe they would look at it and continue to go about their business but in most cases you gave the deer something new to look at and figure out vs being more hidden. Be tough for bow hunting? I might run my ATV for a quick over broadcast of rye in early sept but after that there isn't a motorized vehicle on my property until January when season is over unless retrieving a deer.

That's been a thing in south Texas for half a century.

Well, the product is manufactured by "Texas Outdoors" haha. I lived in Port Mansfield, TX about a decade ago and wanted to do a Nilgai hunt pretty badly. When i saw the outfitters primary tactic was riding around on a stand in the box of a pickup it was an easy pass.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Yes - key is to use your SxS more than just deer season. I feel sorry for those folks who think they have to stay off their land outside of deer season so as not to scare of the mature bucks. They are not realizing the full benefits of their land. If I could only use my land for deer hunting, I would have never bought it.

I guess i'm fortunate that I don't have time to use my land for much more than deer hunting. Grin.

 

[SwampCat]

I guess i'm fortunate that I don't have time to use my land for much more than deer hunting. Grin.

I guess that is one way to look at it. I paid a lot of money for my land, and in my mind, I would never recoup the value back if I was only on it 30 days a year deer hunting. I would lease hunting ground if that was the case. This last weekend was a good example - my son came down, and it was miserable weather - rained all weekend - temps in the 30’s. Rather it had been snow. Friday eve, we did some nighttime thermal hunting. Didnt kill anything but a few coons. Duck hunted saturday morning and killed a hand full. Put out some pen raised quail Sat afternoon to work his young Vizla on. Hog hunted a little after dark Sat eve. Duck hunted sunday morning, and then crow hunted mid day Sunday. I do everything on my place from coon hunt to crawdad trapping. Not to mention, I live on it.

 

[rocksnstumps]

^^^sounds like paradise to me. But down south they have chiggers. Don't like them much. Oh and weather above 80 degs. I'm a warm weather wimp but did live in TX awhile.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I guess that is one way to look at it. I paid a lot of money for my land, and in my mind, I would never recoup the value back if I was only on it 30 days a year deer hunting. I would lease hunting ground if that was the case. This last weekend was a good example - my son came down, and it was miserable weather - rained all weekend - temps in the 30’s. Rather it had been snow. Friday eve, we did some nighttime thermal hunting. Didnt kill anything but a few coons. Duck hunted saturday morning and killed a hand full. Put out some pen raised quail Sat afternoon to work his young Vizla on. Hog hunted a little after dark Sat eve. Duck hunted sunday morning, and then crow hunted mid day Sunday. I do everything on my place from coon hunt to crawdad trapping. Not to mention, I live on it.

Value and use case is different for everyone. If I lived on it I'd probably see things differently too. I look at it as a stable value asset in my overall portfolio. Its a place where I can work on enjoyable and rewarding projects when i have time and I'm not limited by what the landowner allows me to do. If I don't hunt on it much, my lease $ isn't wasted. I wont lose my lease next year. It appreciates in value over time rather than being a sunk cost.

 

[yoderjac]

As I've matured, my focus had broadened far beyond shooting mature bucks. If I never shoot a mature buck again, I won't be the worse for it. If I do, it will likely be during the rut when all bets are off. A broader management mentality has overtaken me along with a stronger desire to introduce the next generation to the sport I love.

 

[hillrunner]

Man I've lost some respect for Winke in the past few months with his new show. The way he's been hunting that property defies logic even for someone with minimal bow hunting experience. His strategy was literally drive a 4 wheeler within a few hundred yards of a redneck that is parked in the middle of a food plot and hunt it nearly every afternoon...Funny how it took him all season to come to the realization they over hunted the plots and had zero access in and out.

I like Winke and I watch his show for that reason, he's a good guy. He does have a tendency to do the same thing over and over though. It used to blow my mind how he had a 1,000 acre farm but he would hunt out of the same blind day after day with no success.