Rumor out of Wis.

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I just heard yesterday that Pepin Co. (maybe it was Buffalo Co.) is going to doe only for the next two seasons because people are just plain refusing to shoot does to keep the herd in check. Anyone able to confirm this? Personally I wish it was that way where I hunt and we dont have anywhere near the amount of deer they do.
 
Not surprising. For the past 4-5 years, our CDAC unit has has strong input to go with either Earn-a-Buck (which they can't as it would require legislative changes) or potentially a doe only season. The DNR keeps thinking that by putting out more doe tags, hunters will shoot more. Without an incentive or requirement, there is no increase in the doe kill #'s.
 
I heard they have no intention on going to earn a buck because of its lac of success. Maybe a shoot 3 does in order to get a buck tag would work?
 
It will be interesting to see if the NRB follows the CDAC recommendation for antlerless only or over rules them. I think a final determination will be made in May.
 
They could always say there is CWD in the area, and hire sharp shooters to thin them out!
 
I wish my county would do that in MN, wow, that would be a great hunt the fall after!
 
Bullwinkle would still claim the populations are only high in certain “pockets”.

Our populations have never really recovered from EHD. I’d like to go buck only for 2 years, or limit the number of tags. Neither of which would ever happen.


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Ive hunted Buffalo Co for a decade and these days I rarely see any does. In my group, we feel we shot them all back during earn-a-buck. I think it is in "pockets".
 
Our family farm is in north east buffalo county, if each my neighbors and family shot 3 does each season there wouldn’t be any left for miles.

In the bluffs the population is much higher. Tough to manage the county as a whole.

Overall I wouldn’t mind a doe only season for age structure. Pretty sure poachers would not be deterred as the woods would be void of hunters!


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Economic impact to the area would be significant.
 
It won’t happen. They tried to do this in waupaca county once before, the uproar was crazy. It’s just a scare tactic to get people to start shooting doe. Deer hunting in buffalo county is a cash cow. They wouldn’t dare mess with it.
 
I heard they have no intention on going to earn a buck because of its lac of success. Maybe a shoot 3 does in order to get a buck tag would work?

Earn-a-buck did work well where it was supposed to be applied. Doe kill went up, more bucks reached maturity, more balanced heard. The problem was the DNR applied across the entire state. It is really a tool for units to be applied to balance high dpsm units.
 
Not surprising. For the past 4-5 years, our CDAC unit has has strong input to go with either Earn-a-Buck (which they can't as it would require legislative changes) or potentially a doe only season. The DNR keeps thinking that by putting out more doe tags, hunters will shoot more. Without an incentive or requirement, there is no increase in the doe kill #'s.
This will be the 6th year that local County Deer Advisory Councils (CDACs) have had deer management control, not the DNR. The local CDAC's have decided how many doe tags to issue the last 5 years. Buffalo county CDAC voted in favor of a antlerless only season for 2019. The CDAC recommendations then have to be approved by the Governor appointed Natural Resources Board, not the DNR. For the NRB to over rule the local CDAC would mean the local Counties do not actually have a say in deer management. In reality, the DNR is watching all this from the sidelines.
 
The landowners there clearly want a bunch of deer and they're getting what they want by limiting the kill on their properties. Some people clearly want more deer killed, but it doesn't seem like those people own land so their vote doesn't count as high in my opinion.

If there are landowners there that want fewer deer it would be really easy to find hunters willing to volunteer to help thin them out. The ag damage program there is a joke and you can get free doe tags to use out of season by simply showing minimal crop damage. There are ways to lower the deer numbers if landowners want fewer deer.
 
To much political money wearing orange in Buffalo Co. come opening weekend -- I doubt it will happen; I wouldnt maybe so much call it pockets of deer but there are definitely areas of high deer concentrations and areas where there are much less per sq mi. But in the the bluffs to the south of here from Durand south into Buffalo Co. to Urne, Tell, Praag to Waumandee and west back to the river the whole area is thick with deer. Its the only area I know where you have to walk through a field of deer to sit in a stand only to look back at the deer you just walked through so you can wait for bigger deer to come out later. Stop at Buck Knuckles bar on a fall afternoon just before dark and you'll see what I mean. Guys getting out of trucks to go hunting with deer 50 yards away just staring at them. We bump small herds of deer snowmobiling with every hill you come over...
 
In reality, the DNR is watching all this from the sidelines.

I have to say I got a great chuckle at that statement ... so mis-representative of who controls the process ...
 
I can't keep all these WI wildlife meetings and committees straight, but aren't these the same committees that annually recommend a statewide ban on baiting that goes nowhere?

Every year the WI Outdoor news lists a bunch of items approved at these meetings and I get excited about the positive effects the changes will make. Then every year nothing changes and they do the same thing next year.
 
The public voted, the Republican majority took deer management away from the DNR over 6 years ago. The process is controlled by the Legislature, the goal being to manage for public satisfaction rather than science. After the local public CDACs have voted on numbers of tags, and the Governor appointed NRB approves the tag numbers, .... the process legally forces the DNR to implement that number of tags per county. Legally required Implementation is not control of any process.

https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/hunt/documents/cdacgovernance.pdf

VII. DEPARTMENT AND NRB REVIEW OF RECOMMENDATIONS

Once final recommendations are provided by CDACs, the following process will occur until final approval is granted by the NRB:

A. Each CDAC’s recommendations will be reviewed by the Department’s Deer Advisory Committee. Committee membership consists of department wildlife biologists, researchers, law enforcement, forestry, health program, and ag damage specialists. In addition, several partner organizations are also represented, including Chippewa tribes and Wisconsin Conservation Congress, among others. This committee will develop a list indicating their support or concerns on each recommendation which will be provided to department leadership for consideration.

B. Department leadership will review and provide their final recommendations along with the unaltered CDAC recommendations to the NRB. NRB agenda items are posted on the department web site for public viewing prior to the NRB meeting to address any process containing CDAC recommendations.

C. If department recommendations are contrary to CDAC recommendations, program staff from the Big Game section will contact the individual CDAC to provide an explanation of any recommendations of concern or disagreement and provide the CDAC with an opportunity to respond to and clarify their reasoning for a recommendation.
 
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I can't keep all these WI wildlife meetings and committees straight, but aren't these the same committees that annually recommend a statewide ban on baiting that goes nowhere?
No, the spring hearings are the county opinion polls for the Wisconsin Conservation Congress. The County Deer Advisory Councils just do the local county deer management.
Every year the WI Outdoor news lists a bunch of items approved at these meetings and I get excited about the positive effects the changes will make. Then every year nothing changes and they do the same thing next year.
Exactly. In order to actually have a change, a publicly elected legislator must introduce a bill to change the baiting law, then the legislature must vote on it, and the governor sign it into law. This puts the voting public in control ... right? Is the representative you voted for supporting what you want?
 
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