Picked Up Another Strange Remington 760 Pump in .30-06

[Bill]

I was reading a deal about bullet weight on deer. It was Terminal ballistic research out of New Zealand I believe.

He was stating the extra velocity in the lighter bullets would cause quicker kills.

I also imagine it could cause more meat loss.

I dunno never shot anything with a 150 in 30 caliber

I shoot 120 grain bullets out of my 7mm rem mag. Not 30 cal but .284 is close. Not many deer have run off. Most pile up right there.

 

[RGrizzzz]

I shoot 120 grain bullets out of my 7mm rem mag. Not 30 cal but .284 is close. Not many deer have run off. Most pile up right there.

What type of bullet? Bonded? Partition? Etc?

 

[Feelslikefar.]

It's funny though, you do see a lot of see through mounts on 760's and 7600's coming out of PA.

My dad had them on his 99, heard him talk them up my whole life. Must have been the "in thing" for a period of time, talked up by writers in Field and Stream and the like. (who probably never really used them either)

When the original scope from the 60's started to get less than visually optimal and we were replacing it, I finally talked him into changing them to something lower that would make shooting the rifle easier.
"Dad did you EVER use them to use the iron sights?" Of course the answer was no. Which was funny because I could specifically remember a story as a kid that he talked about having deer around him at sunrise one morning and it was too foggy to see anything through the scope. Thinking to myself, even as a kid, wait isn't that the whole reason you have those scope rings?

 

[Bill]

What type of bullet? Bonded? Partition? Etc?

Some guys don’t like the ballistic tips but I’ve had great luck with them.

 

[sandbur]

If you're from PA of a certain age and didn't have a 760 for deer hunting, I think they forced you to leave the state. There is still a Remington 141 in 35Rem in use in the family.

Minnesota was 740 or 7400 country when I was a kid. Dad had a 2 or 2.5 Weaver scope on it.

I made a drive to him and he shot a decent buck. He told me to go get the pickup.

I drove up to the deer and we loaded it up. He had leaned his gun against a log and I drove over it. I put a bend in the end of the barrel. I was pretty quiet as I didn’t know if he would be mad at me. He started to laugh and I told him he wouldn’t need to lead running deer with that rifle.

Nice memory.

 

[Westwind]

The Wingmaster of rifles!!!!! I absolutely love it.

 

[Bill]

Might have the barrel recrowned and cut to 18.5". Definitely ditching the see-through mount and putting on the nicest vintage 1960's era made in Denver, CO Redfield scope I can find.

I’ve never bought from these guys but they refurbish and even rebuild vintage scopes with updated glass. I’ve been eyeing a scope and some mounts for a lever gun but just haven’t wanted to drop the coin on it because they are not cheap.

Vintage Gun Scopes

Vintage Weaver, Redfield and other Vintage Rifle Scopes, Guns, scope rings and mounts for sale.

www.vintagegunscopes.com

 

[Natty Bumppo]

My dad had them on his 99, heard him talk them up my whole life. Must have been the "in thing" for a period of time, talked up by writers in Field and Stream and the like. (who probably never really used them either)

When the original scope from the 60's started to get less than visually optimal and we were replacing it, I finally talked him into changing them to something lower that would make shooting the rifle easier.
"Dad did you EVER use them to use the iron sights?" Of course the answer was no. Which was funny because I could specifically remember a story as a kid that he talked about having deer around him at sunrise one morning and it was too foggy to see anything through the scope. Thinking to myself, even as a kid, wait isn't that the whole reason you have those scope rings?

That's a great memory!

 

[Natty Bumppo]

The Wingmaster of rifles!!!!! I absolutely love it.

Yeah...and with a peep it's the stick-shift of rifles!

 

[Natty Bumppo]

I’ve never bought from these guys but they refurbish and even rebuild vintage scopes with updated glass. I’ve been eyeing a scope and some mounts for a lever gun but just haven’t wanted to drop the coin on it because they are not cheap.

Vintage Gun Scopes

Vintage Weaver, Redfield and other Vintage Rifle Scopes, Guns, scope rings and mounts for sale.

www.vintagegunscopes.com

Thanks Bill. I'll check them out. There's a gorgeous 1969 Redfield 1x4 Magnum on Ebay I am looking at...but pricey for a 56 year old scope.

 

[Feelslikefar.]

There is still a Remington 141 in 35Rem in use in the family.

I love classic old hunting rifles. In the same handful of years, I bought a Remington Model 8, a Savage 1899 and lastly a Remington 141, someone had cut down to the carbine model length. Unfortunately that was right at the time my eyes decided I was getting old. I could shoot it at the range, but realized I'd probably never be able to in the woods. What I needed was the Marbles peep sight, but researching it I found one would be very hard to come by, and if I did find one, it would probably cost about half what I paid for the rifle. So sadly I decided the smart thing would be to sell it.

 

[RGrizzzz]

I love classic old hunting rifles. In the same handful of years, I bought a Remington Model 8, a Savage 1899 and lastly a Remington 141, someone had cut down to the carbine model length. Unfortunately that was right at the time my eyes decided I was getting old. I could shoot it at the range, but realized I'd probably never be able to in the woods. What I needed was the Marbles peep sight, but researching it I found one would be very hard to come by, and if I did find one, it would probably cost about half what I paid for the rifle. So sadly I decided the smart thing would be to sell it.

The 141 was drilled and tapped a while ago, so it wears a recent-ish scope.

 

[Catscratch]

I have a Swedish made Smith and Wesson 30-06 sitting around with no scope. I'd like to put one on it that matches the time (I think late 60's). Where's a good place to find something like that? Don't even care if it's from the 60's, just would like it to look right.

 

[Feelslikefar.]

That's a hole in the market companies are missing out on. All modern scopes are flat black with high turrets and blocky tactical serrations on the zoom ring, they all look out of place. The only thing close to the right vintage look in the Hi-Lux M40, the old Redfield look alike they made for M40 Sniper rifle clones. But I've never looked through one and have been hesitant. (and there's two versions of it, I believe the newer more expensive model having better glass. But it may only come in the green, which is too bright/too bronze color compared to what it's supposed to be mimicking.)

I was 0 for 3 on buying old used scopes for old rifles last year. Instead what I was forced to do was sort of shift things. Take a "wouldn't be so bad" scope off a rifle and move it to a vintage one, then put a newer scope on the newer rifle.

 

[Catscratch]

That's a hole in the market companies are missing out on. All modern scopes are flat black with high turrets and blocky tactical serrations on the zoom ring, they all look out of place. The only thing close to the right vintage look in the Hi-Lux M40, the old Redfield look alike they made for M40 Sniper rifle clones. But I've never looked through one and have been hesitant. (and there's two versions of it, I believe the newer more expensive model having better glass. But it may only come in the green, which is too bright/too bronze color compared to what it's supposed to be mimicking.)

I was 0 for 3 on buying old used scopes for old rifles last year. Instead what I was forced to do was sort of shift things. Take a "wouldn't be so bad" scope off a rifle and move it to a vintage one, then put a newer scope on the newer rifle.

Bingo! I don't like the flat black with high turrets look on an stylish old wood/blued rifle.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

That's a hole in the market companies are missing out on. All modern scopes are flat black with high turrets and blocky tactical serrations on the zoom ring, they all look out of place. The only thing close to the right vintage look in the Hi-Lux M40, the old Redfield look alike they made for M40 Sniper rifle clones. But I've never looked through one and have been hesitant. (and there's two versions of it, I believe the newer more expensive model having better glass. But it may only come in the green, which is too bright/too bronze color compared to what it's supposed to be mimicking.)

I was 0 for 3 on buying old used scopes for old rifles last year. Instead what I was forced to do was sort of shift things. Take a "wouldn't be so bad" scope off a rifle and move it to a vintage one, then put a newer scope on the newer rifle.

Bingo! I don't like the flat black with high turrets look on an stylish old wood/blued rifle.

Agree with both of you. I really don't like the look of modern optics on older, vintage rifles. Buying vintage on Ebay can be hit or miss. There are a few Ebay sellers who sell some really nice vintage glass and have great reputations.

I just checked out that Vintage Gun Scopes company that Bill linked and I will say that they seem to be meeting that niche market. Pricey! But impressive. They are restoring vintage scopes with modern glass giving shooters modern optics, in a vintage scope body.

 

[Catscratch]

No need for pricey on this one. I won't shoot it much. All of my deer are bow, yotes and other critters are .308, .223, 17hmr, and .22LR.


I probably just need to find an older gun with a scope that I like and buy it for the scope. Seems like the most logical thing to do...

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Those see through scope rings might make sense if you've got a scope that you cant trust to stay zeroed. Seems more productive to me in this day in age to just have a scope/mounting system that DOES stay zeroed. Might be harder with the pump action config if mounted to receiver though and not a cantilever from barrel? I dont know, my only experience with those rifles is helping all the dudes on "public rifle site in day" at my private range that bring in their recently inherited or borrowed rifle to get on paper before season starts. Usually a couple per year at least.

For you 30-06 guys, saw this ammo sale linked elsewhere. Sierra ammo is typically good stuff and at a 76% discount, i'd stock up if I were a 30-06 shooter. https://rogerssportinggoods.com/sierra-3006springfield-165grain-gamechanger-tgk-box-of-20/

Some guys don’t like the ballistic tips but I’ve had great luck with them.



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I think some of the initial ballistic tip offerings were pretty thin jacketed and gave them a certain reputation. Most of the "big game" marked ones now are actually pretty stout bullets but still disrupt (fragment) enough to kill very well. I think they are as good as anything for typical whitetail hunting ranges.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

You'll never convince me bullet weight matters much when you punch a hole in a heart or a lungs.

Bullet construction and impact velocity is much more important than weight!

 

[Bill]

The thought behind the see through rings was for woods hunting and deer drives. Never get a deer running 25 yards away in the scope so you would use the iron sights.

Tried once as a kid and I couldn’t make it work…….