Not surprised even a little bit but pretty pissed

[Mtyhunter]

We have created a culture of non-compliance. It also doesn’t help that we now have a string of dumbass presidents pardoning people for whole classes of offenses. They all have let people out who should be sitting there thinking “gee whiz. How did I get here. Maybe I should have been at home or working a job instead of making the dumbass decision I made”. Instead, we create even more brazen crooks and dumbasses and they screw up again and the judge cuts them another break. Why? Because bad actions no longer carry penalties.

Really pisses me off.

check this out...like I said before, convicted violent felon, paroled, gets arrested, let go, has a drug court hearing, doesn't show, wanted man.
Then he tried to kill my son.
Then, all those hearings took place because he kept pleading innocent, until finally, the judge decides the case qualifies to go to a grand jury.
Then, he wants to negotiate. On the advice of the DA (because the actual weapon, which the surgeons believed to be a big flat-headed screwdriver, was never found) we negotiated to 11 years in prison. Because this POS was already a convicted violent felon, by Oklahoma state law, he would have to serve at least 75% of the sentence. We all agreed, and off he goes to prison.
When you're in situation like this, you get to be a part of the prison notification system. Everytime they move the prisoner, we were alerted via text. Every hearing, we were alerted. Well, about 5 years into the deal, we got an alert that he was up for his first parole hearing, which was in a prison about 4 hours away. We were like, WTF?, but, we didn't go because he was supposed to serve at least 8.25 yrs. Next day, got a text, saying parole denied. 6 months later, get another text, another parole hearing. WTF? We didn't go. Next day, get a text, and he was paroled!!
Called the DA's office, sent emails, etc, and NO RESPONSE!
I've only told you about 10% of the completely confusing and revolting way all of this happened. I could go on and on about the hospital and billing, how I'm not allowed to contact anyone in the prison system again, or I go to jail, how the hospital freaked out about the news crews, how the police treated us at the hospital and the line of questioning that showed where their mind was at, how my son actually ran into this guy who tried to kill him, in public, 2 years after he was released, the ptsd, which i know now is a real deal...

 

[T-Max]

If I ever get diagnosed with a terminal illness, I intend to provide some justice on the way out for people like your son.

 

[jsasker007]

If I ever get diagnosed with a terminal illness, I intend to provide some justice on the way out for people like your son.

I have the same mindset but it would be very difficult to choose where to start.

 

[Westwind]

check this out...like I said before, convicted violent felon, paroled, gets arrested, let go, has a drug court hearing, doesn't show, wanted man.
Then he tried to kill my son.
Then, all those hearings took place because he kept pleading innocent, until finally, the judge decides the case qualifies to go to a grand jury.
Then, he wants to negotiate. On the advice of the DA (because the actual weapon, which the surgeons believed to be a big flat-headed screwdriver, was never found) we negotiated to 11 years in prison. Because this POS was already a convicted violent felon, by Oklahoma state law, he would have to serve at least 75% of the sentence. We all agreed, and off he goes to prison.
When you're in situation like this, you get to be a part of the prison notification system. Everytime they move the prisoner, we were alerted via text. Every hearing, we were alerted. Well, about 5 years into the deal, we got an alert that he was up for his first parole hearing, which was in a prison about 4 hours away. We were like, WTF?, but, we didn't go because he was supposed to serve at least 8.25 yrs. Next day, got a text, saying parole denied. 6 months later, get another text, another parole hearing. WTF? We didn't go. Next day, get a text, and he was paroled!!
Called the DA's office, sent emails, etc, and NO RESPONSE!
I've only told you about 10% of the completely confusing and revolting way all of this happened. I could go on and on about the hospital and billing, how I'm not allowed to contact anyone in the prison system again, or I go to jail, how the hospital freaked out about the news crews, how the police treated us at the hospital and the line of questioning that showed where their mind was at, how my son actually ran into this guy who tried to kill him, in public, 2 years after he was released, the ptsd, which i know now is a real deal...

Man, it’s infuriating and all too common. Hoping for the best for your son. Damn tough thing to live through.

 

[Mtyhunter]

Thanks guys. So that you know, from a perspective of a conservative outdoors guy like you all....
it took 6 months to catch the guy once we knew who he was. I hunted him that whole time, loaded up. Sniper rifle for long range, 45 for close range. I had to come to terms with me spending the rest of my life in prison, because I was going to kill him if I could find him.
Once he was found and arrested, I had a kid I had coached in football working at the Tulsa County Jail, where he was at, and got some justice in there.
Once he went to the big pen, I had a relative in the pen, who I hadn't talked to in 20 years. I made contact with him, knowing all my conversations were listened to, all i really said was let him know what happened and this guy was in the same prison. That constitutes a "hit", according to the warden. I'm not allowed to contact people in prisons anymore.

As far as my son..got stabbed behind and below the right ear. Shattered 2 neck vertabrae into 5 pieces, cut his spinal cord, and the tendon that binds your skull to your shoulders. 12 hour surgery from an absolute miracle worker neurosurgeon who happened to be on emergency staff that night. Put a titanium cage in place of his missing vertabrae, sewed his spinal cord back together, tied up all the nerves that were cut, etc. Then, spent 6 months relearning everything: holding a spoon to feed himself, to walking, casting a fishing pole...everything. He was a college baseball player who just graduated college, so fortunately, he was in prime physical condition at the time.

If you saw him today in person, you likely wouldn't recognize that he has any physical limitations. But, he has a line going right down the middle of his body. His right side works perfectly dexterity wise, but, he can't feel hot/cold/or pain on his right side. His left side he can feel somewhat, but he has hyper-sensitive nerves, and only about 80% of his right hand works. Since he can't feel his legs, he does kinda walk with a pimp stroll, but, we'll take what we got and thank the lord everyday that he's as good as he is now.

 

[jsasker007]

Glad he's able to still participate in his own life and hopefully the recovery continues until he has a hard time remembering all the shit he went through. It's terrible and a success story all in one.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

Is this satire?

Nope. It's a bit of a hot take, though. I certainly don't expect somebody to take a job or not solely because of jury duty benefits. My employer provides full pay up to a certain length of time for serving on a jury. I took a pretty substantial pay cut because benefits like that one mattered to me.

My original point was that people should want to take part in civil acts like jury duty because that's how a functioning society works. The complaints in the thread up until that point were more about the time and inconvenience of serving. Like Ikeman said, the financial aspect of serving on a jury shouldn't be ignored. Being the change you want to see in the world could involve taking a job with better benefits like paid jury duty leave or advocating for the FED or state to increase juror pay.

 

[Telemark]

Nope. It's a bit of a hot take, though. I certainly don't expect somebody to take a job or not solely because of jury duty benefits. My employer provides full pay up to a certain length of time for serving on a jury. I took a pretty substantial pay cut because benefits like that one mattered to me.

My original point was that people should want to take part in civil acts like jury duty because that's how a functioning society works. The complaints in the thread up until that point were more about the time and inconvenience of serving. Like Ikeman said, the financial aspect of serving on a jury shouldn't be ignored. Being the change you want to see in the world could involve taking a job with better benefits like paid jury duty leave or advocating for the FED or state to increase juror pay.

The federal government should legislate to protect workers when they are summoned to jury duty. People should not be required to plan their lives and careers around something they actually cannot plan for. I've never been summoned. Others have been summoned multiple times. If it's truly random, then you can't really plan for it.

 

[BC Buck]

Nope. It's a bit of a hot take, though. I certainly don't expect somebody to take a job or not solely because of jury duty benefits. My employer provides full pay up to a certain length of time for serving on a jury. I took a pretty substantial pay cut because benefits like that one mattered to me.

My original point was that people should want to take part in civil acts like jury duty because that's how a functioning society works. The complaints in the thread up until that point were more about the time and inconvenience of serving. Like Ikeman said, the financial aspect of serving on a jury shouldn't be ignored. Being the change you want to see in the world could involve taking a job with better benefits like paid jury duty leave or advocating for the FED or state to increase juror pay.

Im not going to change jobs because I might get picked for jury duty once every 15 years. People can use there sick days or vacation if not able to miss couple days of work.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

The federal government should legislate to protect workers when they are summoned to jury duty. People should not be required to plan their lives and careers around something they actually cannot plan for. I've never been summoned. Others have been summoned multiple times. If it's truly random, then you can't really plan for it.

Technically, state courts handle most cases so it would be on them to pay for their cases, but I agree with you. People should be compensated more to an extent. I did a quick search and the majority of employers have paid jury duty and there is no federal requirement, but several states do require it is a benefit.

What I somewhat disagree with is about people planning their lives around serving. There are already numerous valid reasons for being dismissed from serving on a jury. Financial hardship is one of the most common, and others might be other hardships like travel or if you have dependents. A jury of your peers ensures checks and balances on our government and our society and it only works when it is "random" and somewhat compulsory.

Twelve Angry Men is a fictional story, but one of the best movies of all time and it nearly entirely takes place in one room with people talking. I think it illustrates some of the common frustrations people have with jury duty, but it also does an amazing job at showing how important it is.

 

[Telemark]

Technically, state courts handle most cases so it would be on them to pay for their cases, but I agree with you. People should be compensated more to an extent. I did a quick search and the majority of employers have paid jury duty and there is no federal requirement, but several states do require it is a benefit.

The federal government should legislate for it because it should protect all Americans. States handle elections, but the federal government should require photo ID for all voters. I'm fine with election day being a holiday, too. And I think the federal government should mandate minimum 2 weeks vacation for all workers and minimum sick leave and maternity leave.

Let's make America great again.