No-till drill for Ford 9n?

[rocksnstumps]

Actually was just having a bit of fun suggesting a jubilee as an upgrade was mentioned. Not included was how many decades or half centuries of upgrades are we talking.

Currently well cared for 8n's are almost too popular and for the same money could get a Ford 2000 or 3000 from the 60's for darn near same price and at least double the capability. Other brands as well such as Massey Ferguson and ones mentioned above. The 60s Deere stuff is good but carry a premium at auctions here.

When looking at Firminator prices so you can power it with "what we currently have", dang they want like $7k-9k depending on width between 4-6 ft. You can get a really capable older 60s tractor for under 5 grand sometimes under $3k and than can spend rest of money on a bigger selection of choices for the implement.

Those wd45's were pretty capable machines but did not come standard with a 3 pt but conversion parts are available. Their style with that steering linkage just looks really old school tho.

In regards to more modern small diesels. Luv, just absolutely luv the little jap diesels. Yep they learned well from others and reliability and fuel efficiency are top notch.

Have 43 hp yanmar in my almost 25 yr old JD tractor and no complaints.

Edits. In regards van brunt grain drill. See cut down ones advertised all the time now. My buddy jumped on one when they first started showing up in craigslist a number of yrs ago and paid $1000 for a 6 fter. See they are up to 2x to 3x that now

 

[Tree Spud]

May fit what you are looking for ....

John Deere model 290 2 row corn/bean planter

This was just posted on Facebook, these look sweet! I don't know the man just thought I would post here for anyone looking for a planter. If I didn't own a drill, I would jump on one of these. Super nice John Deere model 290 2 row corn/bean planter. mechanical lift,so can be pulled with...

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[Foggy47]

May fit what you are looking for ....

John Deere model 290 2 row corn/bean planter

This was just posted on Facebook, these look sweet! I don't know the man just thought I would post here for anyone looking for a planter. If I didn't own a drill, I would jump on one of these. Super nice John Deere model 290 2 row corn/bean planter. mechanical lift,so can be pulled with...

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I own a JD #71 planter. Have used it for corn and beans. Can be set up for seeds as small as radish and sugar beets. Mine is a 3 point mounted machine. It has double disk openers and is able to plant no-till to some extent in the sandy soils I have. Mine is set up for 30" rows.....but could be adjusted down to perhaps 20" rows. But a planteris not a replacement for a grain drill. A drill will handle small seeds like clovers, brassicas, and rye, wheat, oats, etc.....and does a good job with soybeans. Maybe corn. But you cannot get a planter to do those small seeds.....and your row settings is too great for the seeds suggested above. Planters are better for some seeds....just not smaller seeds. My 2 cents.

 

[Tree Spud]

I own a JD #71 planter. Have used it for corn and beans. Can be set up for seeds as small as radish and sugar beets. Mine is a 3 point mounted machine. It has double disk openers and is able to plant no-till to some extent in the sandy soils I have. Mine is set up for 30" rows.....but could be adjusted down to perhaps 20" rows. But a planteris not a replacement for a grain drill. A drill will handle small seeds like clovers, brassicas, and rye, wheat, oats, etc.....and does a good job with soybeans. Maybe corn. But you cannot get a planter to do those small seeds.....and your row settings is too great for the seeds suggested above. Planters are better for some seeds....just not smaller seeds. My 2 cents.

I agree, unless you have 2 seed boxes with different size gates, you are limited.

 

[rocksnstumps]

May fit what you are looking for ....

John Deere model 290 2 row corn/bean planter

This was just posted on Facebook, these look sweet! I don't know the man just thought I would post here for anyone looking for a planter. If I didn't own a drill, I would jump on one of these. Super nice John Deere model 290 2 row corn/bean planter. mechanical lift,so can be pulled with...

habitat-talk.com

Wow nice paint and all but pricey.

Uncle sold one at his auction last summer. Fully restored just like those. New paint, tires, fertilizer bins too.....$650. Later that day saw it going down the road on a trailer hauled by the auction company truck! Bet they flipped that thing for over double.

 

[bigboreblr]

Take that disc harrow on that 9n, put a 12v spreader, then take some plywood and make a box ontop og the harrow, to keep the seed inside the harrow area.

maybe put tires on it to limit depth, could drag a couple tires behind it.

poor mans seeder. they make commercial seeders like that too.

 

[Foggy47]

Take that disc harrow on that 9n, put a 12v spreader, then take some plywood and make a box ontop og the harrow, to keep the seed inside the harrow area.

maybe put tires on it to limit depth, could drag a couple tires behind it.

poor mans seeder. they make commercial seeders like that too.

I've often wondered if someone would fashion a 6' wide drop spreader with a v-shaped hopper that held about two bushels of seed and a semi-fluted roller that would dispense seeds along the entire length of the hopper as it rotated. Mount it on top of a disk harrow or in front of a flail mower (or even on the front loader of a tractor. As you say....you could pull some old tires behind if you want. My vision would have a seed metering roller that could be electrically powered and a rheostat to control the rate of seed dropped thru a semi-fluted roller.. Calibrating may be a bit tricky to design......but I could see it working pretty slick.

 

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I know one guy who wants to do it..... Not sure If it'll be this year. When my arm heals, I got a porch to rebuild ,a garage to reside, a driveway that needs to be refinished and the boulders sticking ouut hammered.


The food plot maker should make one, real tempted to buy some alibabba stuff and selling the seeder boxes on ebay. If the stuff kinda sucks, just throw in a spared fluted roller an be good about warranty claims.

The hunter 300 and 400 have electric drop spreaders.

But, back to this guy with the 9N. So, you waste an extra bag or two of $20 rye, or some clover seed gets in too deep. Takes alot o extra $20 bags to offset the cost of a new seed drill and tractor. About 2,500 bags extra.....

My personal dilemma, I bought an enclosed trailer and made it a primitive insulated heated and wired trailer. The idiots at camp leaving cracker boxes, cabinet doors open, grease tray on the griddle full, and general poor condition for the next guy....... I am done sleeping in there....... But, my torn bicep was caused by not owning a backhoe....... maybe a little kubota bx is in my future, maybe.

 

[Foggy47]

Just saw this old thread.....and we were talking JD 71 two-row, 3-point planters above. I sold mine last spring to a friend. It was a nice planter but also had lots of wear. Price was $1500 and included the cart to roll it in his shop and some extra parts and manuals. He seems happy and now is planting allot of corn with it. Win / Win.

 

[Foggy47]

The other thing I wanted to comment on.....is that I'm on a Facebook page where guys are restoring these N tractors. Seems to be a real resurgence in restoring these little old tractors. The design was really good back in the day.....and they were a low, stable tractor with good operator safety.....yadda yadda. Some of these restoration jobs are way over the top nice. Personally, I don't see it.....but it is what it is. At one time I may have had that bug too.....but it has passed.

Biggest shortcomings to me are:

1. Not a good loader tractor as they lacked power steering. live hydraulics, and hydraulic capacity. You gotta manipulate allot of levers and do some shifting to operate a loader.
2. Not heavy enough to pull big loads.....yet they can run a 2 bottom plow and a six foot disk on a limited scale. (good enough for food plotters)
3. No four wheel drive.....limited traction with a lite tractor.
4. Gas engines lack torque and have lots of carb and ignition issues at times. (older ones had magneto)
5. 6 volt system. (tho I'm told you can improve them by using an 8 volt golf cart battery. I think it's plug and play. Makes sense.
7. They are getting old. The plastic steering wheels are usually broken, good parts are somewhat difficult to get, hoses, wires, rubber parts are often shot.
8. While they are simple.....You better like to fix stuff. Some of those parts are difficult to replace without some old-school know-how.
9. No live PTO - a real PITA when operating some 3 point machines.

I'm glad other people are restoring them and many seem to like them. Many are doing parades and go on tractor caravans etc. I like them.....just don't want to own one. lol I think I could be happy with a good 861 Diesel tractor with power steering.....or better yet a 3000 or 4000 model with power steering and a HD front axel. I suppose a nice one of those could be bought for $5000 to $6000 or so......and keep that value for a long time.

 

[omicron1792]

The other thing I wanted to comment on.....is that I'm on a Facebook page where guys are restoring these N tractors. Seems to be a real resurgence in restoring these little old tractors. The design was really good back in the day.....and they were a low, stable tractor with good operator safety.....yadda yadda. Some of these restoration jobs are way over the top nice. Personally, I don't see it.....but it is what it is. At one time I may have had that bug too.....but it has passed.

Biggest shortcomings to me are:

1. Not a good loader tractor as they lacked power steering. live hydraulics, and hydraulic capacity. You gotta manipulate allot of levers and do some shifting to operate a loader.
2. Not heavy enough to pull big loads.....yet they can run a 2 bottom plow and a six foot disk on a limited scale. (good enough for food plotters)
3. No four wheel drive.....limited traction with a lite tractor.
4. Gas engines lack torque and have lots of carb and ignition issues at times. (older ones had magneto)
5. 6 volt system. (tho I'm told you can improve them by using an 8 volt golf cart battery. I think it's plug and play. Makes sense.
7. They are getting old. The plastic steering wheels are usually broken, good parts are somewhat difficult to get, hoses, wires, rubber parts are often shot.
8. While they are simple.....You better like to fix stuff. Some of those parts are difficult to replace without some old-school know-how.

I'm glad other people are restoring them and many seem to like them. Many are doing parades and go on tractor caravans etc. I like them.....just don't want to own one. lol I think I could be happy with a good 861 Diesel tractor with power steering.....or better yet a 3000 or 4000 model with power steering and a HD front axel. I suppose a nice one of those could be bought for $5000 to $6000 or so......and keep that value for a long time.

Good to see you back Foggy. Life must be busy in Oz!

 

[Foggy47]

Good to see you back Foggy. Life must be busy in Oz!

I noodle around here each day.....and read the current events. Just don't always post.

Have been playing some good golf the last few days....and trying to getthrough a bout of diverticulitis.....that remains stubborn. This has stalked me for over 20 years.......but this is the longest I've had an issue. Seeing a specialist on Tuesday. At my age it's always something. Smile.

 

[omicron1792]

I noodle around here each day.....and read the current events. Just don't always post.

Have been playing some good golf the last few days....and trying to getthrough a bout of diverticulitis.....that remains stubborn. This has stalked me for over 20 years.......but this is the longest I've had an issue. Seeing a specialist on Tuesday. At my age it's always something. Smile.

Praying for you buddy.

 

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I have an 8N at the cabin that I used for plots and brush work. It "ran great until it didn't." Something electrical--you would think, "nothing to it" but the usual suspects didn't get it running. Turns over great, fuel system is OK, just no spark. Would I use a pull behind no-til? Not likely--the lack of good brakes, the need for a clutch on the PTO and no remotes limits what this tractor can do.

These are popular tractors with restorers, and parts are still available. However, after 11 years of using this tractor, there are better options for the small property land manager for the same $.

 

[bigboreblr]

I'd do something with it if I had one. Buying one....... Your land is flat and easy and it's got alot of work done to do for under $3000. maybe.........

Sold a 8N that needed work. $600.

I think if you had discs for it, add a electric spreader, then make some box walls with plywood to keep the seed inside the disc area.