New Missouri Deer Regs?

[SwampCat]

I have heard some folks say hardly anything eats an ehd killed deer. I dont know about a cwd deer - but there is no shooting a deer this eve and recovering tomorrow morn unless you are cooking bone broth. Pic below is what a single trapper caught in one day in Arkansas yesterday

 

[Ben.MN/WI]

WI. My land in MN isn't in a CWD zone...yet. Only a matter of time I'm sure.

If your mn place isn’t a cwd one yet, you should have more than a decade or more of relatively normal hunting. Hopefully longer.

My home county is under 1% and my south place county is around 6%. When I bought that a couple years ago, I wasn’t concerned about cwd as I hadn’t heard of population dropping at that time. In hindsight, I wish I bought land a county or two farther north to buy more time.

 

[Brian662]

If your mn place isn’t a cwd one yet, you should have more than a decade or more of relatively normal hunting. Hopefully longer.

My home county is under 1% and my south place county is around 6%. When I bought that a couple years ago, I wasn’t concerned about cwd as I hadn’t heard of population dropping at that time. In hindsight, I wish I bought land a county or two farther north to buy more time.

I'll be perfectly honest, six months ago I wasn't very concerned with the disease. Having had two deer I harvested test positive (for the first time) and my direct neighbor's buck also be positive, it has caused me to dig a lot deeper into this. I haven't liked what I've gotten for feedback from landowners, realtors, and reading reports.

If I had to guess, I have about 5 good years left in WI before a 4 year old buck is scarce on my land, and that's a devastating thought considering my average harvest age for bucks has been between 5 and 6 year olds for the past 4 years.

 

[Bill]

I'll be perfectly honest, six months ago I wasn't very concerned with the disease. Having had two deer I harvested test positive (for the first time) and my direct neighbor's buck also be positive, it has caused me to dig a lot deeper into this. I haven't liked what I've gotten for feedback from landowners, realtors, and reading reports.

If I had to guess, I have about 5 good years left in WI before a 4 year old buck is scarce on my land, and that's a devastating thought considering my average harvest age for bucks has been between 5 and 6 year olds for the past 4 years.

Might be just what we need to return the glory days of Deer hunting and shooting a spike and cracking a beer. If so I’m glad to be a genD and blessed to see both…

Maybe they'll talk about us dummies some days.

Thread 'Are the glory days of deer hunting coming to a close?'

Nov 13, 2023

Rifle season kicked off this weekend with a bang…literally. I imagine this is what Gaza sounds like right now. Got me to thinking. We have undoubtedly been in some high cotton with regards to deer hunting. Numbers are sky high most places and quality has been outstanding where hunters can get out of their own way and let deer live past 3.5. I fear that we are witnessing a technological boom that is increasing the efficacy of hunters to a point where quality (not so much quantity) suffers greatly. It appears anecdotally at least, that the majority of hunters are fine with taking immature...

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[Hoytvectrix]

I'll be perfectly honest, six months ago I wasn't very concerned with the disease. Having had two deer I harvested test positive (for the first time) and my direct neighbor's buck also be positive, it has caused me to dig a lot deeper into this. I haven't liked what I've gotten for feedback from landowners, realtors, and reading reports.

If I had to guess, I have about 5 good years left in WI before a 4 year old buck is scarce on my land, and that's a devastating thought considering my average harvest age for bucks has been between 5 and 6 year olds for the past 4 years.

What are realtors saying?

 

[Brian662]

What are realtors saying?

Ironically exactly what this thread is saying. Mature buck numbers in ground zero areas are way down, even hard to find. However, half the buyers either aren't worried about cwd or don't believe in it, so properties arent short on buyers (yet). It hasn't come as a detriment to property values (yet) which is kind of where my 3 year plan to evaluate things comes from at the moment.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

My bucks numbers are down from the first year I bought, significantly this year. I found several dead deer. No one tests in my county. For all I know we are knee deep in it.

 

[SwampCat]

Might be just what we need to return the glory days of Deer hunting and shooting a spike and cracking a beer. If so I’m glad to be a genD and blessed to see both…

Maybe they'll talk about us dummies some days.

Thread 'Are the glory days of deer hunting coming to a close?'

Nov 13, 2023

Rifle season kicked off this weekend with a bang…literally. I imagine this is what Gaza sounds like right now. Got me to thinking. We have undoubtedly been in some high cotton with regards to deer hunting. Numbers are sky high most places and quality has been outstanding where hunters can get out of their own way and let deer live past 3.5. I fear that we are witnessing a technological boom that is increasing the efficacy of hunters to a point where quality (not so much quantity) suffers greatly. It appears anecdotally at least, that the majority of hunters are fine with taking immature...

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I would go back to shooting spikes in a second if we could also go back o shooting the quail, rabbits, ducks, and turkeys like we were killing in those days - but those animals are either gone or greatly diminished here. We are a the peak of deer hunting in my lifetime where I live.

I may not live to see the end of quality deer hunting in my life at 70 years old - but I have no interest to hunt spikes and forkhorns. If I ever stop hunting, it wont be because I left hunting, it will be because hunting left me - at least in my area

 

[Ben.MN/WI]

Ironically exactly what this thread is saying. Mature buck numbers in ground zero areas are way down, even hard to find. However, half the buyers either aren't worried about cwd or don't believe in it, so properties arent short on buyers (yet). It hasn't come as a detriment to property values (yet) which is kind of where my 3 year plan to evaluate things comes from at the moment.

I decided to move forward with a pond project on my property so I can duck hunt when I'm old if the deer hunting goes down the toilet. We live close to Rochester, so I don't think the presence of CWD will cause much of a property value decrease here. But it is depressing to think that the deer hunting quality is likely to only go down, so I've been thinking about a plan B if the deer hunting tanks.

If that happens, I guess I'll shoot a fawn or two for the freezer and manage my property for small game. When I was young the deer hunting wasn't great, but we had some excellent hunting for pheasants, rabbits, squirrels and waterfowl. I could go back to that, but it sucks to think my kids likely won't have the deer opportunities in the future that they have right now.

 

[Brian662]

I decided to move forward with a pond project on my property so I can duck hunt when I'm old if the deer hunting goes down the toilet. We live close to Rochester, so I don't think the presence of CWD will cause much of a property value decrease here. But it is depressing to think that the deer hunting quality is likely to only go down, so I've been thinking about a plan B if the deer hunting tanks.

If that happens, I guess I'll shoot a fawn or two for the freezer and manage my property for small game. When I was young the deer hunting wasn't great, but we had some excellent hunting for pheasants, rabbits, squirrels and waterfowl. I could go back to that, but it sucks to think my kids likely won't have the deer opportunities in the future that they have right now.

I don't think it's quite as doom and gloomy as you make it sound for deer in general, but I'm trying to come to terms with trophy hunting being extremely limited. I think there will always be enough to fill a freezer if so inclined.