My trees, my grafts, my plans, and some disease(?) ID

Rally1148

5 year old buck +
Hey all,

So here are most of the trees I'm working on. The first pictures are of the grafts. At this point, I think that all but one tree has taken, and that which I'm not 100% on I've still got hope. I'm thinking about taking the tape (a few times around with plumbers tape, and then wrapped with electrical tape. My plan was to just cut it to release pressure, but not to completely remove it until the fall. As a side note, I left one tag on a tree and this one said that it was going to grow 8-12' tall. Should this be staked for life? I think that the majority of the trees I planted said 12-15', so I'm not too worried about having just one like this.

For these trees that I grafted, should I cut out the nurse limbs later this summer? I left multiple nurse limbs because I wanted to make sure that I could graft onto these next year if this year failed (I basically just cut out the central leader to graft). I'm planning to make these DR varieties the new leader. I know that the entire tree won't be DR, but I'll only have a few feet of trunk that isn't DR.

Now for the diseases. The first picture is what I think is a fireblight canker. I've got a few problems with this. This is a wild tree, and judging by the size of it it's 20+ years old, and it has survived with no care its entire life. I would think that if this is fireblight, it would be dead by now. Another problem I see is that the end of this branch isn't cankered or showing any signs. Could it be black rot instead?

The second disease picture is on a tree nearby. This is the worst bunch of leaves that I saw. The rest seem to have only one leaf that is dead. Again, it looks like fireblight, but they aren't quite black and shriveled. Additionally, all of the buds are normal looking.

The third disease picture is on one of my new keiffers. I was wondering what would be doing this? Is it an insect, or a disease?



The final picture is just a nice picture of one of the wild trees that I found a few years ago. It is the smallest of the 4 that I found. It needs some more pruning, but already all of the trees have had the most buds I've ever seen after I opened up the canopy around them. They are on surprisingly wet (consistently mushy) ground. They have some nice 2-3 inch apples that hang on the tree. I'm really excited to get my new trees going along side them!
 

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Here is the picture of the wild tree. I could only upload 10 at a time!
 

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I like that wild tree! Has a pretty good shape and stature for a wild apple tree
 
I like that wild tree! Has a pretty good shape and stature for a wild apple tree

I did a lot of trimming last year. It easily has the best shape out of all of my wild trees.
 
Hurray for success fellow michigander grafter wannabe. :)

I can't speak to diseases as I'm a greenhorn but I sure love the pictures of the grafts popping buds!
 
Hurray for success fellow michigander grafter wannabe. :)

I can't speak to diseases as I'm a greenhorn but I sure love the pictures of the grafts popping buds!

I'm pretty pumped that it worked (so far anyways!)
 
Great pics Rally and great grafting. Seems the disease may be fb but not too bad. Cut it out and get rid of it
 
Great pics Rally and great grafting. Seems the disease may be fb but not too bad. Cut it out and get rid of it


Both are fireblight? I can trim the ends (i.e. the ones with the leaves). The other one is more on the trunk of the tree, but in a very localized area. That'll be a bit trickier to cut out.
 
Great pics Rally and great grafting. Seems the disease may be fb but not too bad. Cut it out and get rid of it


Should I trim out the trunk of that tree, or wait to get a better ID?
 
Well, I'm convinced that my grafts have taken. I'll be slitting the tape in a week or two. I'm going to be applying neem oil as well, and I already gave them some "plant food" (8-3-6 or something). Now I've got to do some pruning. I'll have pictures of my wild trees either later today or tomorrow. But for now I'm worrying about my newly grafted trees. I left a generous amount of limbs because I was apprehensive about my grafting success.

Here are (some of) the trees. My thoughts are to take all limbs that are above the grafts. By this I mean that I'd cut back the nurse branches, which are much taller, to a height that they are at or below the tops of the grafts. Since these were transplanted last year, and don't have incredibly established roots yet, I'm apprehensive about cutting off too much greenery. Next year I'll cut everything that isn't coming from my graft so that it'll be the new leader and I'll only have a few feet of trunk that aren't DR.

Also some of my trees that I planted last year have apples, is now an alright time to pinch them off? I didn't do it today, as there is rain coming and I didn't want to give a route for FB, but would I be able to do it tomorrow?


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I'll be spraying roundup today, and then getting some 6ft lanscape paper for the trees.

My computer was left outside last night and isnt working. It was on our covered porch, but the humidity might have gotten it. Hopefully i can get it workng later so i can post the pictures of my wild trees!
 
So, how should I go about trimming those limbs?
 
Super good growth on my grafts, at least IMO. Also, here are my wild trees. Unfortunately I think I found blight ooze coming out of one of the apples on one of them. I'm not sure how to go about cutting off all of the blighted apples, but I'll be doing my best. Also, as you can see I've got a few oaks and a birch in one of the pictures. I think I'll be taking all of them out, and using the oaks to make my apple press. I'll be able to squeak in a few more apple trees that way!

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This is the current set up of my food plot on my property. There is also the layout of my blinds (boxes) and treestands (white triangles). the green lines represent deer movement, the white line a stand of producing oaks, and the blue line my current path of travel to get to my blind. The large green polygon is what I just planted into native prairie. So with some luck it'll be doing well in the next year or so.
 
I finally got some new, and better, pictures! Does anyone know what's going on with these trees? Some of the later pictures of trunks look like it's fireblight. I posted some of those earlier in the year as well.




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This last one is of one of my 2 keiffers. It' doing very well!
 
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Looks like it could be some blight. I had a problem with FB and shoot blight and have those same lesions on a lot of my Asian pear trees. Not sure what that is but one Asian pear was so bad with FB I cut it down completely and burned it along with all the shoots I trimmed. Still have some but too tired to get every last one. Seems the trees with the shoot blight are doing good except for the affected shoots which in most cases is max 3 or 4 shoots in about 10 per cent of my trees
 
There are a variety of things in the pictures you have, none that I see overly concerning to me. I might have over looked FB in your pictures, but I do see scab, CAR and regular old environmentl stress (wind, sun, water).
 
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