Mn gun opener

[BuckSutherland]

The guys I’ve talked to in my area are not happy at all about the deer season. Several have said it’s the fewest deer they have seen, some saw (0). One guy said his group went 0-5 and he never saw a deer in 7 days of hunting. He hunts a prime farm too !

It’s a cumulative effort of terrible management and tough winters ! You can’t keep adding seasons, weapons, tags, early doe, youth, crossbow etc… and expect positive results.

The only way it will change is for the DNR to make the necessary changes by cutting back on seasons and tags… changing season structure.

They should send the warning out now in the offseason and let us know we are forced to make serious changes.

The letters to editor from Zone 1 (Outdoor News) have been very negative. The season should be closed up there until the deer population recovers ! No excuses ! It’s ridiculous!

F the MN DNR. They can go to hell. Where the hell are the brave COs or area managers for the northeast portion of the state??? They could be writing letters to Walz, requesting air time on TV, going to the steps of the capitol, testifying at hearings. THEY DO NOTHING. CO after CO is reporting piss poor deer hunting for the cuffs and collars, yet its radio silence from those brown shirt thugs. Get off your asses and DO SOMETHING already!! If 30 COs showed up on the capitol steps and asked for TV time something would happen.

The state of MN could sue the federal govt to get control of this. Take it back to court. ANYTHING!!! We dont have deer cause of wolves plain and simple. Its not CWD, its not climate change, its not deep snow. We'd still have some deer even with the deepest snow. They have none in a large portion of the state. They will probably respond to the poor numbers with a January and February baited hunt. F them!

 

[Brian662]

Wait till next year when the season dates are as late as they can be and the rut isn’t going on for the whole 9 day season, really going to be some heartache then.

 

[Angus 1895]

Minnesota needs to push for wolf control.

Idaho , Wyoming and perhaps other states would be good models for options.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Minnesota needs to push for wolf control.

Idaho , Wyoming and perhaps other states would be good models for options.

Red v blue

 

[Angus 1895]

I got a funny story about this deal.

I used to work on a farm in grand marais Minnesota . The owner was a born in St. Paul …a staunch democrat.

The owner of the farm told me the west doesn’t understand the wolf…..we wuz ignant.

The West should learn to co exist with the wolf

A few years later they bought chickens …….a fox ate one.

They immediately shot the fox.

 

[AtomApple]

Wait till next year when the season dates are as late as they can be and the rut isn’t going on for the whole 9 day season, really going to be some heartache then.

as a bow hunter, I love the latest possible gun opener ! Gives the bow hunters a chance at the rut for year.

 

[TenPoint]

Can’t imagine not being able to bow hunt the rut. Our gun (WI) will be as late as possible next year. Gives an extra weekend of bow hunting at least. No complaints about that.

 

[Brian662]

as a bow hunter, I love the latest possible gun opener ! Gives the bow hunters a chance at the rut for year.

Same, but I do feel bad for the northern MN property owners and hunters who spend time working on their land and habitat just to see nothing for the week.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

It is hard to make any generalizations about Minnesota hunters with the very diverse habitat and traditions in the state. Add the line between rifle and shotgun zones as another variable.

There is no easy answer.

It’s a good point. My land is in a 1 deer either sex unit with a 16 day rifle season. Less than 3 miles away it’s 3 deer limit 9 day rifle season.

 

[Brian662]

It’s a good point. My land is in a 1 deer either sex unit with a 16 day rifle season. Less than 3 miles away it’s 3 deer limit but firearm season is 9 days and shotgun zone.

Agreed. My land is less than a 1/4 mile in two directions from a CWD zone where I could shoot numerous bucks, does for $3 a pop. I can get one buck and two does in my zone for a stupid amount of money per tag but just across a couple highways the tags are 7 times cheaper to shoot a doe. WTF are we doing here?

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Red v blue

Not the case. It was a rider on a federal budget bill by senators Simpson (R-ID) and Teller (MT Democrat) that got it done, not state politicians. But the appetite in those senators states for shooting wolves was much different than it is in MN and a MT dem senator is going to be a lot different than a MN dem senator. Dem senator Max Baucus in MT authored something similar trying to delist as well. The MT governor (democrat) also celebrated the achievement. Even Harry Reid helped it through.. Of course still more supported by red than blue, but a lot of blue contributed to getting it done.

At the same time some deep red dipshit influences from UT (SFW - Don Peay) did their best to eff it up and WY took a lot longer to get there by taking a less moderate approach.

Edit to add: This whole topic made me go back and refresh on the issue. Love this quote, Fook the center for biological diversity and their BS lies.

“With Democrats like Tester, who needs Republicans?” asked Kierán Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity. “Jon Tester’s job creation agenda is concerned with only one job — his own. With the help of the White House and Senate leader Harry Reid, he has sacrificed wolves and the Endangered Species Act to cynical, self-interested politics.”

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I'm just going by what my friends that own resorts and try to take people out fishing(guide service) have stated as what they see and hear and I've been living in the thick of it for my entire life. Watched it all from the very beginning to where it's at now. City slickers are pretty much ignorant to any actual facts about the tribe we have here. Just my opinion from where I'm sitting. Like I said, I'M NOT A FAN

Was raised as an impressionable little guy around some guides and resort owners. Lots of very legitimate gripes but also some untrue things coming out of the anger that festered from the legitimate gripes.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Agreed. My land is less than a 1/4 mile in two directions from a CWD zone where I could shoot numerous bucks, does for $3 a pop. I can get one buck and two does in my zone for a stupid amount of money per tag but just across a couple highways the tags are 7 times cheaper to shoot a doe. WTF are we doing here?

Yeah but they've gotta draw a border somewhere, it'll never be perfect. Beats treating everything as a CWD zone.

 

[Brian662]

Yeah but they've gotta draw a border somewhere, it'll never be perfect. Beats treating everything as a CWD zone.

I'm with you on that. I've lived here 10 years and never been able to appropriately control my herd with the tags I can buy, that's the frustrating part.

 

[Skeeter]

It’s a good point. My land is in a 1 deer either sex unit with a 16 day rifle season. Less than 3 miles away it’s 3 deer limit but firearm season is 9 days and shotgun zone.

Not trying to take away from your point, but you might want to double check that. I believe the rifle/shotgun boundary in that part of the state is 95 not 23.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Not trying to take away from your point, but you might want to double check that. I believe the rifle/shotgun boundary in that part of the state is 95 not 23.

Good catch man, thanks for the correction!

 

[jsasker007]

Was raised as an impressionable little guy around some guides and resort owners. Lots of very legitimate gripes but also some untrue things coming out of the anger that festered from the legitimate gripes.

No doubt that some do get carried away and add their own negative spin to make it worse if possible. I'm just stating my own views of how I've seen the area where I'm at going down the tubes. Onamia,mn WAS a tourist town, now we are just a place everyone drives around after they bypassed the town with the highway that leads right to the casino. Would be great to see some of the casino and reservation money get payed back to the community in taxes. jmho

 

[bwoods11]

Wisconsin gun deer harvest was down 18% ? So it’s bad there as well. I’d actually hate to be a DNR deer manager, they take a lot of heat , some much deserved!

Everyone wants something different, that’s the problem!

 

[SD51555]

Wisconsin gun deer harvest was down 18% ? So it’s bad there as well. I’d actually hate to be a DNR deer manager, they take a lot of heat , some much deserved!

Everyone wants something different, that’s the problem!

The Dakotas had big drops, but it was a conservation move. Both SD and ND have cut their tags way back. They do not sell unlimited amounts of tags in every corner of the state like MN does. I wish they'd just close my area for next year. What the hell would be the difference at this point? We can all still go up north and drink whiskey, eat beans, and sit in a tree and not shoot anything.

 

[Brian662]

I wonder how much the bumper acorn crop this year was a factor into the harvest numbers? By almost all acounts the acorns were off the charts and the deer didn't have to move from their normal secure locations seeking food as often as normal.

The buck I harvested in WI ran a complete opposite pattern on his usage of my property than he did last year, and I chalk that up to his summer location (not on my property) likely was loaded with acorns. Very few summer pics of him and his "shift" occurred nearly a month later than last year (presumably when the acorns dried up at his summer haunt).