Drones in research

But you don’t think videos like this just open Pandora’s box. All it takes is some folks to see how easy it is to follow bucks around and of course they will start using it for hunting.
Absolutely. That's why I think it should be regulated just like other tech is regulated. I don't want my neighbor sitting over a feeder at night with a thermal scope and suppressor either. I think it should serve as a wake up call to game and fish departments.
 
Absolutely. That's why I think it should be regulated just like other tech is regulated. I don't want my neighbor sitting over a feeder at night with a thermal scope and suppressor either. I think it should serve as a wake up call to game and fish departments.
Agreed. Call me skeptical though. They’ve been aware of drone tech for years and nothing has happened. I personally had correspondence 3-4 years ago with the state of ky and they said “they are working with other states to come up with a plan”. The wheels of progress must be stuck in the mud.
 
There's already laws in many states making it illegal. And just like any other law, it's not stopping the people you need to worry about.

Years before I owned a drone I recall reading about laws they were thinking about passing at the time. I was puzzled because I couldn't think of many realistic ways a drone would help me. Then I did come up with one use. Using it to look for other hunters (trucks). Countless times I'd planned to hunt a certain bunch of state land up the road, hiked up there only to find trucks parked there messing up my plan/schedule. I thought "If I could send a drone up the road first, that would save me so much time!" Now that I have one, the reality of that has also proven false. I can walk up there faster than I can set the drone up. lol

If you've not watched Drone Deer Recovery on Youtube, you're also missing what a valuable tool they can be for that. Also illegal in many states because of "what bad people could do" reasoning. Again if they wanted to break the law, they still would.
Watching that channel will make you start wondering about the efficacy and ethics of bow hunting. Or maybe just in way too many bow hunters.
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There's already laws in many states making it illegal. And just like any other law, it's not stopping the people you need to worry about.

Years before I owned a drone I recall reading about laws they were thinking about passing at the time. I was puzzled because I couldn't think of many realistic ways a drone would help me. Then I did come up with one use. Using it to look for other hunters (trucks). Countless times I'd planned to hunt a certain bunch of state land up the road, hiked up there only to find trucks parked there messing up my plan/schedule. I thought "If I could send a drone up the road first, that would save me so much time!" Now that I have one, the reality of that has also proven false. I can walk up there faster than I can set the drone up. lol

If you've not watched Drone Deer Recovery on Youtube, you're also missing what a valuable tool they can be for that. Also illegal in many states because of "what bad people could do" reasoning. Again if they wanted to break the law, they still would.
Watching that channel will make you start wondering about the efficacy and ethics of bow hunting. Or maybe just in way too many bow hunters.
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did they tell you how this guy specifically flew over my neighbors property, while he was hunting, to see what was in the switchgrass? A property that they drone flyer or his customer had not permission to fly over? They had lights right at dusk while he was hunting.

Did they tell you how he got his drone confiscated in PA for seedy practices?

He's from my area and is one of those "serial entrepreneurs" who starts something, then burns it down.

I have used drones for deer recovery and I get both sides of the argument. But the "bad people acting badly" describes this dude perfectly.

Just saying.
 
Shady types around here look for "wounded" deer in standing corn fields and push them out with the drone to hunters waiting around field.

Same guys that push deer off no hunting posted properties with drones, same type of guys that used to drop coon hounds out middle of the night to push deer out of woods they didn't have permission to hunt.

Yea, drones are cool....NOT.
 
The hunting culture message is we all need to band together....but there are hard walls between us and they typically come from effort. We have FAR MORE shady people in our ranks than we want to admit, and frankly most are lazy calling it efficient with best outcomes desired for the least effort. Drones are like guns and it comes back to the user as to how good or bad they are. The fact the tech has outpaced most regulation and compliance, or that such laws are provided by states/entities that are typically inept, keeps every social media post provoking someone intentions.
 
The hunting culture message is we all need to band together....but there are hard walls between us and they typically come from effort. We have FAR MORE shady people in our ranks than we want to admit, and frankly most are lazy calling it efficient with best outcomes desired for the least effort. Drones are like guns and it comes back to the user as to how good or bad they are. The fact the tech has outpaced most regulation and compliance, or that such laws are provided by states/entities that are typically inept, keeps every social media post provoking someone intentions.
100%. I think more hunters would bend ethics and laws if it meant they could accomplish their goal than would not.
 
I wish I could bring back the mystery of my youth.
That was half the fun to me - trying to figure out what Mr. Buck was doing, where he hung out, where he travelled, etc. I loved reading the signs in the forests & fields, and attempting to put the pieces of the puzzle together. No drones for me, even though I can afford an array of tech gadgets.
 
NJ's deer must be very well patterned.

Call me old school, I don't read up much on deer hunting itself. Used to. Most of my lessons learned have been walking around off season with a 22lr........

Places I target as Im getting a deer this year, I don't even trail camera that one most years. Just good old see what I see.
 
I watched most of the thermal drone study podcast. One thing he briefly talked about was when the host asked him about the best habitat locations in November. Cut and paste from the transcript...

"Deer are really evenly distributed. And I just mean that, you know, you might have the best habitat around and have every reason the deer should be there, but you know, and during the rut, there's just they're going to naturally have to spread out. And so that's why your neighbors might be holding more bucks than you think they should and their their farm's no good or whatever the case may be. But yeah, they just I mean you're not going to hold so many more deer that time of year as compared to to late season and I think people know that. But that's that really stands out with a drone."
 
I watched most of the thermal drone study podcast. One thing he briefly talked about was when the host asked him about the best habitat locations in November. Cut and paste from the transcript...

"Deer are really evenly distributed. And I just mean that, you know, you might have the best habitat around and have every reason the deer should be there, but you know, and during the rut, there's just they're going to naturally have to spread out. And so that's why your neighbors might be holding more bucks than you think they should and their their farm's no good or whatever the case may be. But yeah, they just I mean you're not going to hold so many more deer that time of year as compared to to late season and I think people know that. But that's that really stands out with a drone."
He went on to say, except in cases where there had been TSI work done. He gave an example of one place where he did a survey and the deer where spread out. He did a survey the next year after TSI, and almost all the deer where in there. He said he's seen that other places, and it caused him to do that on his place. Another thing he said where he seldom saw deer, was in straight switchgrass plantings with no structure.
 
I think switch stifles all airflow. I wouldn’t want to be in that stuff either. Never understood the appeal
 
I think switch stifles all airflow. I wouldn’t want to be in that stuff either. Never understood the appeal
I think that is why Don Higgins is putting in more Miscanthus in his switch. He had this guy out to do a survey on his place.
 
He went on to say, except in cases where there had been TSI work done. He gave an example of one place where he did a survey and the deer where spread out. He did a survey the next year after TSI, and almost all the deer where in there
I quoted what he said specifically about the rut time period and how bucks naturally spread out during this time, leaving better habitat for lesser habitat. He did say in December the bucks go back to the best habitat.
 
I think during the rut bucks are just going to move to service whatever does are hot at the time. The increased movement and testosterone just naturally tends to spread them out a bit. Nothing earth shattering and makes total sense.

What doesn't make sense is putting miscanthus into switchgrass lol. That's just a salesman making more sales.
 
I've been planning my switchgrass planting for years, and the concensus seems to be that dense switch works well as a screen, but tends not to hold deer. However, light plantings allow shrubs and forbs to establish in the switch and can hold deer well.
 
I grew up in an area that was practically devoid of deer. And, I covered every inch of almost a square mile area routinely as a kid. The first spots where I noticed deer appearing and using were in abandoned pastures that were growing up into shrubland. I think shrublands are an overlooked component. Shade, year-round food, and cover are all available in one place. They're ugly though.
 

This wasn’t the Ohio guy.

Not saying they’re all immoral( but it seems to attract a certain type.

Like when my dad used to say you can always tell when drywallers hit a job site because the art starts in the Porta John’s. Haha


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I think switch stifles all airflow. I wouldn’t want to be in that stuff either. Never understood the appeal

Speak for yourself.

Our switch holds a lot of deer.

But I had a farm that had very little woods so this was a way to add cover.

I’ve been tempted to put some structure In the switch. But when we burn it in the spring it’d be tough to keep the pines or whatever Alive.

Mg grass ain’t bad. But we don’t have switchgrass being too dense issues.


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