Would you feed that deer meat to your kids?
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
As a people, we only worry about what we're told to worry about, or what we can see. Nobody forces the question about what we're not seeing, and that is by design. I'd love to see human pharmaceutical residue tests on waterfowl. I shake my head when I drive by water treatment ponds and see them full of ducks and geese bathing and eating in water full of human drugs.
Grant woods did some videos on neonics in turkeys and the livers of deer. I caught a podcast once talking about pesticide buildups in bears, despite them being entire regions away from agriculture. Over the life of a bear, those pesticide dusts move entire regions and deposit into regions that never asked for those things.
Nobody measures amoxicillin buildup in pork. Nobody measures the toxic levels of omega 6 to omega 3 ratios in confinement meats and their effects on the human body vs meats that have natural ratios of omega 6 to 3. Nobody measures the absence of nutrients in chickens that reach slaughter size in 6-8 weeks in a house, vs slow chickens designed by god that live outside and eat bugs and walk around and can live for years vs dying of obesity at 12 weeks.
What are the human health effects of eating meat of animals that were weeks away from death caused by inflammation, vs healthy free ranging herbivores? I know all these answers because I went looking for them.
Grant woods did some videos on neonics in turkeys and the livers of deer. I caught a podcast once talking about pesticide buildups in bears, despite them being entire regions away from agriculture. Over the life of a bear, those pesticide dusts move entire regions and deposit into regions that never asked for those things.
Nobody measures amoxicillin buildup in pork. Nobody measures the toxic levels of omega 6 to omega 3 ratios in confinement meats and their effects on the human body vs meats that have natural ratios of omega 6 to 3. Nobody measures the absence of nutrients in chickens that reach slaughter size in 6-8 weeks in a house, vs slow chickens designed by god that live outside and eat bugs and walk around and can live for years vs dying of obesity at 12 weeks.
What are the human health effects of eating meat of animals that were weeks away from death caused by inflammation, vs healthy free ranging herbivores? I know all these answers because I went looking for them.
I agree those things are bad, but I still don’t think eating cwd positive meat is good!
T-Max
5 year old buck +
CWD positive meat? Or meat from a CWD positive deer? Those are different things undoubtedly. Whether or not to eat it is still a personal choice.
Nothing can stop the spread as they say, so we are headed toward a future where you can no longer eat any deer…
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Nothing can stop the spread as they say, so we are headed toward a future where you can no longer eat any deer…
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Yes, there’s a u of mn study that found prions in meat as well as the water used to boil the meat. I’m having trouble linking the article, but here’s the author and if you google cwd in meat and her name it should pull up the study.
www.cidrap.umn.edu
Mary Van Beusekom, MS
Mortenson
5 year old buck +
Googled her. Didn't find the study, but didn't look long. Read a couple of her articles. Would people agree that basically the best they can come up with right now is that eating cwd deer might cause you to develop cjd? Or don't they have a clue yet? Just trying to get up to the latest. Haven't looked into it much the past couple years.
Cjd or something similar is the fear, but jumping species is hard to do. My wife works with a doctor who deals with cjd patients and that is a really bad disease for sure.
He claimed that most of his patients are hunters, which was odd to hear and likely just a coincidence.
I don’t test every deer we shoot, but I wouldn’t eat one that tested positive.
He claimed that most of his patients are hunters, which was odd to hear and likely just a coincidence.
I don’t test every deer we shoot, but I wouldn’t eat one that tested positive.
Cool Hand Luke
5 year old buck +
Personally I just can’t buy into this. Call it negligence if you will. When Covid hit I paid no mind. My daughter was born the day they announced it. They tried to quarantine us in the hospital in a room away from everyone because my wife had all matching criteria. My daughter went to the NICU, and was legitimately sick full of fluid in her lungs. Spent 7 days there. Almost died in front of me. Spent nearly $12,000 in medical bills. My wife wasn’t able to see her for an entire 24hrs. She was a nurse in that very hospital. A simple phone call on speaker to my lawyer with the hospital president in the room set everything straight.
All that said, CWD is real no doubt.
Now, think about all the carcinogens in the food and literally everything else you’re consuming with your family. IMO, it’s fear mongering of the government over the hunting community and continuing to test your deer/share information with the DNR will be the ultimate demise to our freedom as landowners/hunters. Do with that what you will.
All that said, CWD is real no doubt.
Now, think about all the carcinogens in the food and literally everything else you’re consuming with your family. IMO, it’s fear mongering of the government over the hunting community and continuing to test your deer/share information with the DNR will be the ultimate demise to our freedom as landowners/hunters. Do with that what you will.
Westwind
5 year old buck +
Had never heard of cjd. Looked at the Mayo article about it. Sounds terrible. Doesn’t sound like they know what causes it but they seem to at least suspect cwd and mad cow as being something to avoid. At least thats the way I read it.
I always figure if what I stand to lose is more than I stand to win it is a bad bet.
www.mayoclinic.org
I always figure if what I stand to lose is more than I stand to win it is a bad bet.
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My wife works at Mayo in one of the brain units.Had never heard of cjd. Looked at the Mayo article about it. Sounds terrible. Doesn’t sound like they know what causes it but they seem to at least suspect cwd and mad cow as being something to avoid. At least thats the way I read it.
I always figure if what I stand to lose is more than I stand to win it is a bad bet.
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease: Rare cause of dementia-Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease - Symptoms & causes - Mayo Clinic
Learn what can put someone at risk of developing this rare brain disorder that causes dementia.
One of the doctors in the cjd area has some strong feelings on eating cwd positive meat, so I’ll listen to him.
Everyone else is free to make their own decisions though.
Mortenson
5 year old buck +
I'm listening, and always open to changing my mind. Would just be nice for something of substance to come out. You would think top Mayo docs could prove something already. Millions of people eat venison snack sticks every year. Every stick that came from a locker has the prions in it. Everyone I know eats those things whether they hunt or not. Everyone asks for deer sticks and jerky.
Hoytvectrix
5 year old buck +
2 hunters may have died of prion disease from eating contaminated deer meat, researchers say
A new report calls for further study into a possible link between chronic wasting disease in deer and a rare and deadly brain disease in humans.
www.cbsnews.com
This was published last year. I can link to the original study if people want. This isn't the smoking gun (and there hasn't been one yet), but it is concerning. It would be very difficult to show a casual link between CWD positive deer and CJD infection from a research point of view.
Here is a NDA summary article about a more robust study that was published a few years ago: https://deerassociation.com/no-patterns-of-prion-disease-among-hunters-in-cwd-zones-new-data-shows/
I'm on the fence about this. I would think that it has been around long enough that a relationship would have been found. For the time being I'm going to hold off on eating any meat from a known CWD positive deer. I'm fortunately in a position where it isn't a necessity to rely on the deer meat.
