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[Telemark]

I reckon I'll take my chances and leave my 2 BH crabs like they are with the graft 2-3 inches above ground , instead of burying them ....after seeing this

https://csfs.colostate.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/How-to-Properly-Plant-a-Tree-Root-Flare_v2.pdf

That link is pretty much how I plant trees. Not sure if it applies to all trees, but it's my general method.

 

[Oaknut]

My rationale for burying grafts is:

1. I am in Michigan’s elk range. I want vigorous trees that will grow out of their reach, and as rapidly as possible.

2. We also have bears. I hope to have trees that will someday be large enough so that bears do not totally destroy them.

3. If voles, mice or rabbits girdle my trees I want a chance that root sprouts might be from the scion variety.

4. I hope for trees that will endure for generations, and I have several seedling trees that I believe are at least 80 years old, and perhaps much older than that.

Unfortunately, many of the trees that I see are simply grafted too high to make burying the grafts practical.

My first two reasons are less important with trees produced on full-sized RS, like those from Blue Hills. But trees from big box & farm stores that I’ve seen are often on semi-dwarf or unknown RS. I have no use for trees on dwarfing RS, except as scion donors.

I’ve been planting apples & crabs this way for 35 years when the grafts are low enough, and it has worked for me. But I have extremely light, sandy soils. Perhaps it would be less successful in heavier soils or in clay, I do not know.

I am not saying that burying grafts is right for everyone. But in my situation I believe that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

 

[sandbur]

My rationale for buying grafts is:

1. I am in Michigan’s elk range. I want vigorous trees that will grow out of their reach, and as rapidly as possible.

2. We also have bears. I hope to have trees that will someday be large enough to so that bears do not totally destroy them.

3. If voles, mice or rabbits girdle my trees I want a chance that root sprouts might be from the scion variety.

4. I hope for trees that will endure for generations, and I have several seedling trees that I believe are at least 80 years old, and perhaps much older than that.

Unfortunately, many of the trees that I see are simply grafted too high to make burying the grafts practical.

My first two reasons are less important with trees produced on full-sized RS, like those from Blue Hills. But trees from big box & farm stores that I’ve seen are often on unknown RS. I have no use for trees on dwarfing RS, except as scion donors.

I’ve been planting apples & crabs this way for 35 years when the grafts are low enough, and it has worked for me. But I have extremely light, sandy soils. Perhaps it would be less successful in heavier soils or in clay, I do not know.

I am not saying that burying grafts is right for everyone. But in my situation I believe that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

Interesting advice for your light sandy soils.

 

[sandbur]

Of course non of this applies to me because Im done planting fruit trees!

Me, too. I mean, me was. Well I am done as of today.

Luke had some small Prairie Sensationn on dolgo that I couldn’t pass up. I told him how I struggled with tree tubes 30 plus years ago and how the trees wouldn’t harden off by fall.

He also has vented tubes so I followed his suggestion. Plant and tube. Sink the tubes at least four inches in the ground. Then pull the tubes in late summer. I will window screen and fence then.

I thought I had lots of trees. I would estimate he has 3x on his hunting ground. Better soil and more wind protection than my location. I am expecting to have to tie some of these trees to conduit when I pull the tubes.

He is in wooded hills. I am in open ag, former prairie lands. I had a 20 minute tour of his set up. Impressive.

Well, I am done planting trees….. for now.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I’ve planted over 100 fruit trees from both WC and BH (and others) and had the grafts above ground in North Central PA and the only 3 trees I’ve lost in 5 years have been from stupid voles…

It's amazing what those little b'trds can do to trees. Once a tree gets a few years of growth & gets established, even bears don't usually do enough damage to kill a tree - but voles can kill a full-grown tree without protection. In winter - everything edible is fair game to voles & mice.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

It's amazing what those little b'trds can do to trees. Once a tree gets a few years of growth & gets established, even bears don't usually do enough damage to kill a tree - but voles can kill a full-grown tree without protection. In winter - everything edible is fair game to voles & mice.

One of them was a three year in the ground Wolf River that I was expecting fruit on that year till I noticed it kinda tipping sideways an when I went to move it the whole dang thing popped out of the ground! My little guy was with me and may have learned a new phrase or two that day…

 

[jsasker007]

One of them was a three year in the ground Wolf River that I was expecting fruit on that year till I noticed it kinda tipping sideways an when I went to move it the whole dang thing popped out of the ground! My little guy was with me and may have learned a new phrase or two that day…

I'm a little pissed for you with that experience. Deer decided they would "trim" a bunch of my evergreens this year for some reason. 15 year old trees that they never touched before this year. Still pissed about it.

 

[TonySoprano]