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I've often wondered how many pounds of apples/fruit a deer could eat in a day? I rarely ever see fruit on the ground at my place. End goal is to have an abundance so it is always available. Not sure how many trees that's going to take but should be well on my way.
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
Whats the coldest big dog has seen?
I m wondering if the deer can eat all my apples once they're mature. 39 apple/crabapple, 2 peaches, 3 pears, severla mulberrys too. 6 acre parcel with 1/2 acre and 1/8th acre foodplot. Got 3 in the foodplot right now. Probably have about 10-12 deer visiting reguarly. Rarely a group over 5 at a time. Im thinking Ill have to do something with the excess apples. Might be selling pallet boxes of 2nds. Hopefully not to deer hunters. NY is no baiting state.
I m wondering if the deer can eat all my apples once they're mature. 39 apple/crabapple, 2 peaches, 3 pears, severla mulberrys too. 6 acre parcel with 1/2 acre and 1/8th acre foodplot. Got 3 in the foodplot right now. Probably have about 10-12 deer visiting reguarly. Rarely a group over 5 at a time. Im thinking Ill have to do something with the excess apples. Might be selling pallet boxes of 2nds. Hopefully not to deer hunters. NY is no baiting state.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
sandbur
5 year old buck +
sandbur
5 year old buck +
I feel that at some point, managers need to focus their plantings. Focus on plantings that drop during the highest stress period in their climates, focus on plantings that drop during the archery season and in locations conducive to that hunt, the same focus for firearms hunts. In some areas firearms hunts (as well as the distance from stand sites) is different that archery hunting locations.
In my location, winter into early spring is the prime stress period. Late droppers that are intended to help a deer through the winter need to be near conifer cover where the deer have ready access to it.
I am in mainly flatlands. Winter survival in hill country might mean the apple trees need to be near south slopes where deer more readily bed in the winter.
Other winter bedding sites might be a conifer windbreak that protects cat tails or willow/ tag alders thickets.
Plant specific apple trees in locations with a purpose. I failed to do that and just planted trees. It still has worked out pretty well. Planted spruce have provided the winter cover. This has also worked well for the firearms hunt.
For early season archery hunts, trees should have been planted differently. I no longer archery hunt and we have a smorgasbords of crops during early archery season.
In my location, winter into early spring is the prime stress period. Late droppers that are intended to help a deer through the winter need to be near conifer cover where the deer have ready access to it.
I am in mainly flatlands. Winter survival in hill country might mean the apple trees need to be near south slopes where deer more readily bed in the winter.
Other winter bedding sites might be a conifer windbreak that protects cat tails or willow/ tag alders thickets.
Plant specific apple trees in locations with a purpose. I failed to do that and just planted trees. It still has worked out pretty well. Planted spruce have provided the winter cover. This has also worked well for the firearms hunt.
For early season archery hunts, trees should have been planted differently. I no longer archery hunt and we have a smorgasbords of crops during early archery season.
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
I think I messed up a bit at camp, too many later trees. Deer some years leave cam to winter a few miles down the road. This year planting will all be october early november crabapples. Our camp is getting more n more sightings of moose, no clue what they do in the winter up there. Lots of thermal cover spots from black spruce trees.
You're right on those spruce / conifer. I think a combination of spruce and white pine is nice. White pine provides cover for the early years, before the spruces are big enough. One of my biggest moves in PA public land is scout those fluke pine tree spots or lone trees. Very often a buck relaxing in one. The real trick is to wait or stalk in close enough to get them with a flintlock with open sights.
You're right on those spruce / conifer. I think a combination of spruce and white pine is nice. White pine provides cover for the early years, before the spruces are big enough. One of my biggest moves in PA public land is scout those fluke pine tree spots or lone trees. Very often a buck relaxing in one. The real trick is to wait or stalk in close enough to get them with a flintlock with open sights.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
That brings to mind old stories from my Dad and Uncle hunting in the 50’s and early 60’s in northern Minnesota. These were the days before tree stands. They often would stand under a lone white pine and the other would make some sort of a one man push. The clearing under a pine in thick brush or hardwoods was an attractant after leaf fall for both the deer and the hunter.
Second rambling story from an old fart here, I got the feeling that deer crossing a field, meadow, or very short clear cut will focus on a single pine or large oak that stands out on the other side. I have heard the same thing about an abandoned windmill in prairie areas. Hunting pressure changes everything , of course.
