Coronavirus
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Buckly
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ksgobbler
5 year old buck +
Alot of people will die in rural areas after this blows over and there are no longer any hospitals or healthcare providers. 45 minute ambulance ride to get to a large city doesn't bode well for folks in the golden hour.
chummer
5 year old buck +
Since we can only blame Trump I am not going to say Cuomo’s decision to not allow elective surgery for the last month is a catastrophic mistake. While we wait for a wave that never came all these surgeries are getting backed up. My SIL found a match for a kidney transplant. A monumental moment in her life, surgery was schedule, now she is waiting for who knows how long. Hindsight is tough, but since we hold Trump to the perfection standard, I won’t say why didn’t we keep doing the surgeries until some resemblance of a wave started. Now the hospitals sit empty for at least another month. If hospitals are normally full how do you make up 2 months of back logged procedures. I wish maybe the media would cover these stories but hey we can only criticize Trump.
Northbound
5 year old buck +
From the start of initial stay home orders I've had the same opinion, either a total lockdown stay on your own property for 21 days or let it run wild. To be Frank the world is way overpopulated and things like this should be expected. We know not to have hundreds of deer in a single food plot, why do we think it's acceptable for hundreds of humans to be held up in such confined areas? .
Now we're going on a month of this crap, I've got 9 of 12 employees staying home as cosmetic construction didn't make the essential list if reading the fine print and I don't want liabilities of playing gray areas. Meanwhile a buddy of mine with an appliance store stayed open since appliances are evidently essential to human survival. He had higher than average sales during the stay home order and still received almost 400k in the paycheck protection act. I didn't want to apply for handouts unless necessary, go figure yesterday when our dictator governor extended the order till may 26th the sba loans also ran out of funding.
Sorry I needed to rant I guess. Could be worse, Michigan's governor banned motor boating and visiting second homes for its residents. For some reason she still welcomes us non residents. And im assuming I'll be scoring some good cash deals on boats and more land from those who can't use them.
Now we're going on a month of this crap, I've got 9 of 12 employees staying home as cosmetic construction didn't make the essential list if reading the fine print and I don't want liabilities of playing gray areas. Meanwhile a buddy of mine with an appliance store stayed open since appliances are evidently essential to human survival. He had higher than average sales during the stay home order and still received almost 400k in the paycheck protection act. I didn't want to apply for handouts unless necessary, go figure yesterday when our dictator governor extended the order till may 26th the sba loans also ran out of funding.
Sorry I needed to rant I guess. Could be worse, Michigan's governor banned motor boating and visiting second homes for its residents. For some reason she still welcomes us non residents. And im assuming I'll be scoring some good cash deals on boats and more land from those who can't use them.
Knehrke
5 year old buck +
I truly hope that everybody who has discounted my opinion is correct. Because that would mean that less people die. There's lots of "facts" being touted on this thread that are anything but - you know, I'm too tired to argue. I'm going to grab a chainsaw and engage in some social distancing this morning. When all is said and done, we can look back with 20/20 hindsight. Based on what I've seen so far, even folks who were wrong will be right eventually. There's an awful lot of that going around.
And just to be clear, somebody above stated that I am a doctor who has prescribed chloroquine. That is not correct. I am a Professor of Medicine who runs a large research lab focused on molecular genetics. Chloroquine came out of a screen we'd done for cardiomyocyte susceptibility to hypoxia-reperfusion injury. I don't want to operate under false pretenses - and my bona fide credentials should stand alone anyway, unless you've jumped on the anti-science bandwagon.
And just to be clear, somebody above stated that I am a doctor who has prescribed chloroquine. That is not correct. I am a Professor of Medicine who runs a large research lab focused on molecular genetics. Chloroquine came out of a screen we'd done for cardiomyocyte susceptibility to hypoxia-reperfusion injury. I don't want to operate under false pretenses - and my bona fide credentials should stand alone anyway, unless you've jumped on the anti-science bandwagon.
chummer
5 year old buck +
This is the only opinion of yours I could find. Are you still backing natural evolution? Still think leaking from the lab is not likely. What are your other opinions? Should we stay locked down until there is a vaccine? I get you don’t like anecdotal evidence. Your career is based on not accepting it. In a situation like this anecdotal has to be used until trials can be done. Are you suggesting that people shouldn’t be getting these therapeutic drugs until trials are done? How many extra people would die if we did that. Are we not to believe the testimony of actual patients that it saved their lives? Do we have to wait for a guy in a white coat to verify through months of test what patients are telling us? You are implying you have all the answers, please share.
SereneWoods
A good 3 year old buck
My apologies, from what you said I inferred that you were practicing and prescribing the chloroquine drug. Not sure where I saw it on the news, but there was a doctor who had prescribed it hundreds of times with great success. Not a study, only anecdotal (tell that to the many people who's lives have been saved by this drug). I also stand corrected on the FDA approval (see attached), although it seems pretty half hearted. I stand by my contention that this has only gotten so political because the president has touted its use. If he hadn't, there would be no firestorm over it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/30/coronavirus-drugs-hydroxychloroquin-chloroquine/
BuckSutherland
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This is from IMHE (the people doing all the coronavirus modeling). I was looking at their DATA last night.
Hospitals running at about 5% capacity. In MN we are sitting at 111 deaths. The average age last time I looked was 87 years old. Total deaths of 195 by August 4th? Today is our peak? We had first case 5 days after New York.
Stanford data is suggesting infection rate is 50-85 times higher than we are confirming.
Hospitals running at about 5% capacity. In MN we are sitting at 111 deaths. The average age last time I looked was 87 years old. Total deaths of 195 by August 4th? Today is our peak? We had first case 5 days after New York.
Stanford data is suggesting infection rate is 50-85 times higher than we are confirming.
BuckSutherland
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https://www.foxnews.com/science/third-blood-samples-massachusetts-study-coronavirus
Is this why states like MN and the MN ministry of health cant get off their ass and get any testing done? We have the great infectious disease expert Dr Michael Osterhomo here, we have the U of M here, we have the Mayo Clinic in our state. Why dont they go into a town like Rochester, MN and test 5,000 people to see how much of this is out there. With all of these studies finding the infection rate is MUCH higher than advertised its gonna blow a giant hole into the story that we have been told. Its gonna mean the death rate and hospitalization rates are way lower than advertised.
Is this why states like MN and the MN ministry of health cant get off their ass and get any testing done? We have the great infectious disease expert Dr Michael Osterhomo here, we have the U of M here, we have the Mayo Clinic in our state. Why dont they go into a town like Rochester, MN and test 5,000 people to see how much of this is out there. With all of these studies finding the infection rate is MUCH higher than advertised its gonna blow a giant hole into the story that we have been told. Its gonna mean the death rate and hospitalization rates are way lower than advertised.
TreeDaddy
5 year old buck +
I am not anti science
i do question the church of darwinism,global warming ,etc and refuse to genuflect to the shrine of academia
bill
Buckly
5 year old buck +
your opinion is just that. The Fact is just about every medical facility in NY is using hydroxychloroquin, remdesivir and plasma treatments in patients right now. Doesn’t matter that you believe that’s not science. You gotta start somewhere. Right. And it’s showing good promise so I’m told
SereneWoods
A good 3 year old buck
your opinion is just that. The Fact is just about every medical facility in NY is using hydroxychloroquin, remdesivir and plasma treatments in patients right now. Doesn’t matter that you believe that’s not science. You gotta start somewhere. Right. And it’s showing good promise so I’m told
I think they will find that part of the reason the numbers are so low is because of the early virulent flue outbreak starting in November was actually Covid-19 as a result of thousands of infected Chinese flying direct to our country at the same time the Chinese government was restricting their travel within their country. Found this interesting:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-california-herd-immunity/
Buckly
5 year old buck +
Entirely possible. We‘ll find out later when they do community testing. My wife works in a medical office. And they had lots of flu like illness in January that came back negative for flu. You never know. One thing that’s puzzling is that right now around These parts you have to be showing symptoms to be tested. In our County over 400 people have come back negative for Covid with only 25 positives. So do these people have the flu? I don’t know
S.T.Fanatic
5 year old buck +
NO SHIT!!!! I said right from the start that we already had it, It is no big deal, and that something else is going on. Our government just bent us over, took away our freedom, bought votes, increased inflation, lowered the value of the dollar fucking over anyone with a savings account, lined their dirty pockets, manipulated the stock market, etc., etc.,etc.
This needs to end and someone needs to be held accountable for it!!!
Natty Bumppo
5 year old buck +
Not surprised at all. Some of you might recall I posted this on March 24th.
Buckly
5 year old buck +
this points out a couple things. Antibody tests are supposed to determine if you’ve had the virus in the past and are no longer capable of spreading. What they don’t want is antibody tests that Can’t determine if your still contagious Hopefully that has been worked out in the new tests out now. Regular Covid tests to see if you currently have the infection and antibody tests that say your past infection and contagious . That’s the key here. Although the fact remains that there’s still a huge percent of the populations that has or did have it already. All this will have to come out in the light over the next month I think.
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