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Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?
- Thread starter 4wanderingeyes
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Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
Yeah they clearly staged whatever she was doing for the cameras
I’m sure they were trying to get likes and kudos from some whacked out left wing reddit group. That backfired
Westwind
5 year old buck +
I’m going to try to explain my position on this. Then I’m going to try to step away unless someone has a very specific question. I’ll try to answer it from my perspective as a guy that worked in the field since 1990, was a supervisor but was never in administration.
This will be justified. She was armed with a 3,000 pound weapon. She was moving forward and he was damn lucky he didn’t fall in front of her car. She was there to cause problems. She was in the act of causing problems. Bad stuff can happen when you mess with law enforcement. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Like I said about another woman that got shot in the face awhile back, if she was doing what she as supposed to be doing that day she would be alive today. Proceed in an orderly fashion and this stuff doesn’t happen.
But this shouldn’t have happened. Law enforcement isn’t supposed to be a circus. It is sometimes, you can’t always prevent it. They know this is going to attract the nutballs and they seem to feel that is a feature not a flaw. I said it above, I will say it again, except under some rare and unusual circumstances it is usually a bad idea to shoot the driver of a moving car. The purpose of shooting people is to stop them from harming someone else. Shooting the driver of a moving car does not stop it. I have seen this exact scenario many times and it is a bonehead move, always found justified and is always regarded in behind the scenes law enforcement circles as exactly what *not to do.
As someone whose long la enforcement career is ending I have lived through a lot of nonsense thrust upon the good guys of law enforcement by the bad judgement of some real bonehead cops. For me it started with Rodney King in 1991. What happened in L.A. caused my job to get harder in Illinois. Every damn time one of these incidents happens, it makes life harder for officers everywhere. That’s the game. That’s what happens. This is the same. This reinforces the bs narrative about bad cops, thug cops, and justifies the culture of non-compliance becoming more entrenched.
Strive to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Enough bad stuff will happen on its own, take some steps to tone things down, be a quiet professional. Get out there and make the bad guys pay. It will be harder to do today than it was yesterday morning.
This will be justified. She was armed with a 3,000 pound weapon. She was moving forward and he was damn lucky he didn’t fall in front of her car. She was there to cause problems. She was in the act of causing problems. Bad stuff can happen when you mess with law enforcement. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Like I said about another woman that got shot in the face awhile back, if she was doing what she as supposed to be doing that day she would be alive today. Proceed in an orderly fashion and this stuff doesn’t happen.
But this shouldn’t have happened. Law enforcement isn’t supposed to be a circus. It is sometimes, you can’t always prevent it. They know this is going to attract the nutballs and they seem to feel that is a feature not a flaw. I said it above, I will say it again, except under some rare and unusual circumstances it is usually a bad idea to shoot the driver of a moving car. The purpose of shooting people is to stop them from harming someone else. Shooting the driver of a moving car does not stop it. I have seen this exact scenario many times and it is a bonehead move, always found justified and is always regarded in behind the scenes law enforcement circles as exactly what *not to do.
As someone whose long la enforcement career is ending I have lived through a lot of nonsense thrust upon the good guys of law enforcement by the bad judgement of some real bonehead cops. For me it started with Rodney King in 1991. What happened in L.A. caused my job to get harder in Illinois. Every damn time one of these incidents happens, it makes life harder for officers everywhere. That’s the game. That’s what happens. This is the same. This reinforces the bs narrative about bad cops, thug cops, and justifies the culture of non-compliance becoming more entrenched.
Strive to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Enough bad stuff will happen on its own, take some steps to tone things down, be a quiet professional. Get out there and make the bad guys pay. It will be harder to do today than it was yesterday morning.
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bwoods11
5 year old buck +
During the videos this week, you see protesters getting in their way and shouting/yelling . They don’t move or listen . A couple protesters have been pepper sprayed, & there is always another gal or two with a camera trying to take pics or video .
This is staged stuff . Trying to create outrage against ICE.
This is staged stuff . Trying to create outrage against ICE.
Westwind
5 year old buck +
Everything is videotaped now.
Every police arrest has someone trying to cause outrage.
She wasn’t from Seattle or L.A., she lived a few blocks away.
They believe they are right just like we do.
AND they got a lot of practice a few years back. Got to act out with no consequences. The culture of non-compliance.
Every police arrest has someone trying to cause outrage.
She wasn’t from Seattle or L.A., she lived a few blocks away.
They believe they are right just like we do.
AND they got a lot of practice a few years back. Got to act out with no consequences. The culture of non-compliance.
I understand your point but how do you train someone to not fire when they're being run down? At least shot number one. Two and three could probably be trained out.
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
Comply with the law. Pretty simple actually.
everything else being said, comply with the law first, then settle out later.
that's why i find it incredulous that we have to push 1 for english and 2 for spanish. if you're a legal citizen, you're going to know english, and if a cop tells you to put your hands up...in today's world, with all cops dressed out in swat gear, one finger on the trigger... it's be a good idea to understand what he said.
and why do i have to select which language on an ATM? because there could be ppl with legal visas here, but don't speak the language? how many ppl here on temporary visas open a fricking check account?
i know it's one of those simple things that shouldn't get a person upset, but, it truly bothers me every single time i have to do it
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
Inmates are running the asylum. Not good. Common sense is a thing of the past. Covid proved just how stupid a lot of people are. jmho
Westwind
5 year old buck +
You save yourself by getting out of the way unless there are some special circumstances. Shooting the driver only takes time and insures a driverless car. I doubt she was trying to run him over, probably trying to drive away and not smart enough to figure out someone could get hurt. But who knows maybe she was sceaming she was going to kill them or had a gun in her hand. Doubt it but who knows.
People take off on you after you stop them all the time now. They do it because there are no penalties. "I was scared" is all spineless judges need to hear.
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
Westwind
5 year old buck +
100%. It's the judges. "we keep giving them breaks, why do they keep comitting crimes?" Well, Your Honor, he couldn't have done that from jail.
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BuckSutherland
5 year old buck +
The agent has been identified. Jonathan Ross
In June of 2025, he was dragged down the road by a fleeing illegal immigrant sex pervert in a car. After being drug by the moving car for over 100 yards he was thrown from the vehicle and required at least 33 stiches for wounds he received to go along with bumps and bruises. From where he was standing yesterday I think it would have been impossible for him to see which way the wheels of the vehicle were turned as the bumper was blocking his view. He was IN FRONT of the vehicle and the first shot went through the windshield. Maybe a little PTSD from prior incidents.
In June of 2025, he was dragged down the road by a fleeing illegal immigrant sex pervert in a car. After being drug by the moving car for over 100 yards he was thrown from the vehicle and required at least 33 stiches for wounds he received to go along with bumps and bruises. From where he was standing yesterday I think it would have been impossible for him to see which way the wheels of the vehicle were turned as the bumper was blocking his view. He was IN FRONT of the vehicle and the first shot went through the windshield. Maybe a little PTSD from prior incidents.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
You can access a foreign account from an American ATM.
If two languages on an ATM bother you, European ATMs would blow your mind. They often have several European languages, and sometimes even a couple Asian languages for the tourists.
Telemark
5 year old buck +
Yes, we do, and Denmark has historically let us do whatever we want there. My guess is Trump wants to put in missile defense systems without the Danes being able to peek into what we're doing.
There's a fair bit of resources there, too. Seafood and minerals mostly.
I just did a quick Google search for info on arctic prawns, which is what I buy from Greenland. Greenland's 2026 quota for just that one species is worth around a billion dollars, and that's been reduced from last year.
There's a fair bit of resources there, too. Seafood and minerals mostly.
I just did a quick Google search for info on arctic prawns, which is what I buy from Greenland. Greenland's 2026 quota for just that one species is worth around a billion dollars, and that's been reduced from last year.
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