Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

[Mortenson]

How did DOGE miss this?

Big Balls probably didn't want to get beat up by democrats again.

 

[Bill]

So Chuck Shumer owns an "Aerospace" company. The new financial administrator at NASA could not figure out what the company does. So he canceled their $14 million per year no-bid contract.

I bet nothing ever happens about it.

Nothing will happen. That one was not true. Started as satire and grew legs. Guy’s still a tool though.

 

[sdoyle1]

My point is, when they are on their own time they are not representing your company but themselves. Cases like Kimmel, or some of these ceos are different. What one does on their own time is their business, unless it starts affecting the business that's where the line should be drawn. The problem I have is people digging into others lives and causing havoc because they don't agree with what they are saying. That's not right no matter what side is doing it. These people Cheering, and celebrating kirks death while vile and reprehensible people should be allowed to have their opinions weather I or you agree or not. Hell I have guys that work for me that do stuff on their own time that I don't like, I'm not going to fire them for it. It's their business not mine

It's just my opinion but i think those who are willing to publicly cheer on the murder of a person because of their hatred of the persons beliefs are so extreme that they would likely be trying to push their beliefs onto the students they are hired to teach. Those who are happy about it but have enough sense to keep their mouth shut about that in public are more likely, but not guaranteed to not be pushing their beliefs onto the students. I think we can draw conclusions about the character of people who wilfully celebrate this so in my mind those people are unfit to be educating future generations. We can agree to disagree on this which is exactly what Charlie said often.

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[Catscratch]

It's just my opinion but i think those who are willing to publicly cheer on the murder of a person because of their hatred of the persons beliefs are so extreme that they would likely be trying to push their beliefs onto the students they are hired to teach. Those who are happy about it but have enough sense to keep their mouth shut about that in public are more likely, but not guaranteed to not be pushing their beliefs onto the students. I think we can draw conclusions about the character of people who wilfully celebrate this so in my mind those people are unfit to be educating future generations. We can agree to disagree on this which is exactly what Charlie said often.

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So you know what teachers are doing in the classroom without ever being in that classroom. Nice.

 

[sdoyle1]

So you know what teachers are doing in the classroom without ever being in that classroom. Nice.

I didn't say i did. I do know my daughter came home from school one day in Trumps first term stating how her teacher was saying Trump was a terrible person. I understand this is only one example. It's no secret that many teachers are pushing a liberal agenda on students. Do I know which ones they are? No i don't but i think it safe to assume the ones most likely to do that are the same ones that would cheer about a man getting murdered who was on the opposite political spectrum as they are.

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[Mortenson]

Mort,


How does your corn crop look??? About 5 weeks ago I thought I had 250-300 bushel corn coming. The last few weeks southern rust and tarspot has decimated the crop in my area. I brought in the plane to spray about 80% of my acres back in July and they are barely hanging on. 200-225 seems more likely now. The fields that did not get sprayed are horrible. LOTS of dead brown corn from pre mature death.


This is what mine looked like 5 weeks ago. Looks pretty ugly now. I've been having LOTS of respiratory issues. Gonna be a gross harvest. I got a box of N95 on the way. God know where all this shit comes from.....

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Hey Buck. Dang that corn looks really good for being 5 wks ago. Would be a shame if it cant finish out from there. Looked perfect. We will have a good crop. It was a rare year in that after our trip to your part of MN, I was able to comment that for once our home county had the nicest crop of the entire drive. That was back in July, but we hung on long enough. First field went 252 over the scale. Good but not setting the world on fire. I hope you surprise yourself. Good luck this fall.

 

[Bill]

I’m not planting corn to harvest. But mine looks darn good in N central MO. And I planted with a Great Plains drill that shouldn’t plant corn.

I’ve mowed some and peeled quite a few and it looks good. For deer….

 

[Turkish]

So you know what teachers are doing in the classroom without ever being in that classroom. Nice.

If you openly wish death on a political opponent, I’m not sure I care how good you are in the classroom. That’s a bridge too far.

 

[Catscratch]

I didn't say i did. I do know my daughter came home from school one day in Trumps first term stating how her teacher was saying Trump was a terrible person. I understand this is only one example. It's no secret that many teachers are pushing a liberal agenda on students. Do I know which ones they are? No i don't but i think it safe to assume the ones most likely to do that are the same ones that would cheer about a man getting murdered who was on the opposite political spectrum as they are.

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What if your daughter came home and told you a teacher had said Trump was doing a good job? Pushing an agenda?

I agree that teachers should be held to a high degree, a very high degree. No objection to that at all, and a teacher's opinion has no business being in the classroom.

Celebrating a murder, the death of an innocent man... that's a demonstration of low character and not an assumption. I've been astounded (and disappointed and saddened) at the number of people who think this was ok or worth celebration.


I disagree about "safe to assume". I feel those are very dangerous words. Words that should not be applied very often.

 

[Foggy47]

It's just my opinion but i think those who are willing to publicly cheer on the murder of a person because of their hatred of the persons beliefs are so extreme that they would likely be trying to push their beliefs onto the students they are hired to teach. Those who are happy about it but have enough sense to keep their mouth shut about that in public are more likely, but not guaranteed to not be pushing their beliefs onto the students. I think we can draw conclusions about the character of people who wilfully celebrate this so in my mind those people are unfit to be educating future generations. We can agree to disagree on this which is exactly what Charlie said often.

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THIS is what I heard from my grandkids when they attended schools in Minnesota too. Even college prof's were bashing Trump according to my grandson when he attended Gustavus. Being a conservative for these kids was not easy....as peer pressure really is huge in these years. This is why CHARLIE KIRK was such a huge event for conservatives and our youth.

My 2 cents.

 

[Maddog66]

There is a big part of me feeling a degree of satisfaction in seeing D’s FOR ONCE being held accountable on perfectly legal speech.

I want it to continue long enough that it makes an impression. Turn-about is indeed fair play and we need to make it hurt so bad they remember it for a generation and realize they started it.

 

[sdoyle1]

What if your daughter came home and told you a teacher had said Trump was doing a good job? Pushing an agenda?

I agree that teachers should be held to a high degree, a very high degree. No objection to that at all, and a teacher's opinion has no business being in the classroom.

Celebrating a murder, the death of an innocent man... that's a demonstration of low character and not an assumption. I've been astounded (and disappointed and saddened) at the number of people who think this was ok or worth celebration.


I disagree about "safe to assume". I feel those are very dangerous words. Words that should not be applied very often.

If my daughter came home and said the teacher said Trump was doing a good job then I'd say that's far from the opposite of what the teacher said. Saying an elected politician is doing a good job is not pushing an agenda. The teacher made a claim about the character of the president, it wasn't a rating of the job he was doing. I'd be equally as concerned if the teacher said Trump was the greatest person ever and made him out to have bo faults. That would be more of equivalent scenario.
As far as my choice to use the words "safe to assume", I chose those carefully. You'll see i said those are the ones most likely to do this. I did that intentionally, it was to make it clear I didn't think that was the case with every individual. I stand by my statement that those who have enough hate to cheer on a murder are those who are most likely to push their agenda to the students if they are a teacher. I believe those that want to shout their position the loudest outside of their job are those who will continue to push their position onto people at their place of employment.

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[SD51555]

Acosta isn't being questioned behind closed doors to protect him, it's to protect those questioning him. Afterall, their handlers are calling the shots on this one.

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[H20fwler]

Crap, Jimmy Kimmel is coming back.

 

[4wanderingeyes]

Crap, Jimmy Kimmel is coming back.

I still won’t watch him. Never have, never will.

 

[Mortenson]

Kari Jobe and some other big Christian voices brought it. Pretty song.

 

[OakSeeds]

I don't really have a dog in this discussion, so I probably ought to stay on the porch. However, this is a teachable moment and the only contribution I will make to this thread.
Sdoyle1 said ...
"I stand by my statement that those who have enough hate to cheer on a murder are those who are most likely to push their agenda to the students if they are a teacher. I believe those that want to shout their position the loudest outside of their job are those who will continue to push their position onto people at their place of employment."

In the first sentence, you have made a probability assessment about the likelihood of a person with strong convictions attempting to influence others. While stated as an opinion on your part, it is a logical conclusion many would make. You cite no evidence or examples.
In the second sentence, you state your believe that persons complaining the loudest are most likely to push their views on subordinates or coworkers. I'll help you by suggesting some persons might do this if their hate was very intense (its the character thing you mentioned above).

I guess you realize this may have occurred at the highest level in our government during the Charlie Kirk tribute and the 36 hours following it.
It could be argued an example of the premise in your second sentence above occurred Sunday when the President of the United States apologized publicly to Mr. Kirk's widow for "hating his opponents." He said it twice, I presume for emphasis. Further, it has been reported in the news (videos and Truth Social posts) that the President is pushing Pam Bondi very hard to investigate (and bring charges against) 3 of his opponents (Comey, Schiff and James.) Apparently persons he "HATES" badly enough to cause him to "push his views"- see sentence 2 above - on a subordinate (the AG Ms. Bondi).

The hypothetical teachers you referenced above as biased against President Trump, and engaging in a personal attack - on his character - might have been more effective - and seemingly less biased - by assigning the articles - https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/leadre...-the-good-the-bad-and-the-downright-dangerous or https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/how-narcissistic-leaders-destroy-within for students to read before conducting a class discussion about how leaders with negative character traits often make_organizations less ethical, less effective, and have a negative effect on employee job satisfaction (higher turnover).

 

[Bill Loser]

I don't really have a dog in this discussion, so I probably ought to stay on the porch. However, this is a teachable moment and the only contribution I will make to this thread.
Sdoyle1 said ...
"I stand by my statement that those who have enough hate to cheer on a murder are those who are most likely to push their agenda to the students if they are a teacher. I believe those that want to shout their position the loudest outside of their job are those who will continue to push their position onto people at their place of employment."

In the first sentence, you have made a probability assessment about the likelihood of a person with strong convictions attempting to influence others. While stated as an opinion on your part, it is a logical conclusion many would make. You cite no evidence or examples.
In the second sentence, you state your believe that persons complaining the loudest are most likely to push their views on subordinates or coworkers. I'll help you by suggesting some persons might do this if their hate approached rage level (its the character thing you mentioned above).

I guess you realize this has occurred at the highest level in our government in the last 36 hours.
Yesterday, the President of the United States apologized publicly to Mr. Kirk's widow for "hating his opponents." He said it twice, I presume for emphasis. Further, it has been reported in the news that the President is pushing Pam Bondi very hard to investigate (and bring charges against) 3 of his opponents (Comey, Schiff and James.) Apparently persons he "HATES" badly enough to cause him to "push his views"- see sentence 2 above - on a subordinate (Bondi).

The hypothetical teachers you referenced above as biased against President Trump, and engaging in a personal attack - on his character - might have been more effective - and seemingly less biased - by assigning the articles - https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/leadre...-the-good-the-bad-and-the-downright-dangerous or https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/how-narcissistic-leaders-destroy-within for students to read before conducting a class discussion about how leaders with negative character traits often make_organizations less ethical, less effective, and have a negative effect on employee job satisfaction (higher turnover).

Way, way to much nonsense to unpack here, so I'll just hit on the big one. Trump is pushing for charges against Schiff, comedy and James not because he hates them, but because what they did is highly illegal, openly and willingly lying to Congress, alone would be grounds enough for charges... Sheesh !!! Where have you been the last bunch of years.

 

[T-Max]

Way, way to much nonsense to unpack here, so I'll just hit on the big one. Trump is pushing for charges against Schiff, comedy and James not because he hates them, but because what they did is highly illegal, openly and willingly lying to Congress, alone would be grounds enough for charges... Sheesh !!! Where have you been the last bunch of years.

If what you say is pure indisputable fact, surely his hand picked U.S. Attorney General would understand the law well enough to not require pressure to bring charges. He appointed her as his legal expert to know those exact things. Perhaps the evidence isn't as strong as he (who isn't an attorney or legal expert) thinks? Why appoint someone who is an alleged expert and then micromanage them into the dirt? What they did sure "seems" to me you and everyone else to be illegal, but if it were that cut and dry he wouldn't have to be firing people who won't bring charges.

 

[Jerry-B-WI]

If what you say is pure indisputable fact, surely his hand picked U.S. Attorney General would understand the law well enough to not require pressure to bring charges. He appointed her as his legal expert to know those exact things. Perhaps the evidence isn't as strong as he (who isn't an attorney or legal expert) thinks? Why appoint someone who is an alleged expert and then micromanage them into the dirt? What they did sure "seems" to me you and everyone else to be illegal, but if it were that cut and dry he wouldn't have to be firing people who won't bring charges.

Let's ask Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions what their boss thought was illegal. Pam Bondi's days may be numbered.